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Offline sophiewilliams

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Re: Illigitimacy - understanding it
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 26 July 15 10:00 BST (UK) »
She was born in Hole in Wall near Brampton A.  Eventually they moved to Weston Under Penyard because Alice marriage certificate to David Waters in 1917 confirms this  :).  It may be she was christened not in parish....haven't explored this .....

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Re: Illigitimacy - understanding it
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 26 July 15 10:04 BST (UK) »
Quote from: sophiewilliams on Sunday 26 July 15 09:53 BST (UK)




Three points;-

George Bick (senior) then is admitted into Burghill (admission records confirm) in January 1914,
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Meanwhile Alice gets pregnant with Kathleen in August/September 1913 
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Kathleen is born, with no middle name, takes the surname Bick, and is not christened.
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      George Bick could well be the father of Kathleen given these dates.
      Of course, even if they were living together he still may not have been the father.

   

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Re: Illigitimacy - understanding it
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 26 July 15 10:04 BST (UK) »
She may not have been christened. This is not the same thing as her birth not being registered, which was a legal requirement.

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Re: Illigitimacy - understanding it
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 26 July 15 12:19 BST (UK) »
Yes she could be George's and maybe the shame that he was in the asylum was just too much that she didn't registrar..... Except its been passed down that she was illegitimate and Alice didn't hide that fact apparently.  George didn't of insanity due to a blow to head four years before (!!!???) On death certificate. 

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Re: Illigitimacy - understanding it
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 26 July 15 12:32 BST (UK) »
Marriages Mar 1952   

BARRETT    George L   to BICK    Ross    9a   190    
BICK    Kathleen   to  BARRETT    Ross    9a   190    

I wonder who she named as her father on the marriage cert?
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Re: Illigitimacy - understanding it
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 26 July 15 13:01 BST (UK) »
Hi carole8353
sophiewilliams answered that earlier;
"My grandma got married herself and that marriage certificate leaves father details blank.  Very frustrating!"

Trish :)
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Re: Illigitimacy - understanding it
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 26 July 15 13:29 BST (UK) »
I think next course of action maybe to look at electoral rolls for 1913/14/15 & 16...see where Alice and the girls were living, might give a clue ???

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Re: Illigitimacy - understanding it
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 26 July 15 14:05 BST (UK) »
Quote from: trish1120 on Sunday 26 July 15 13:01 BST (UK)
Hi carole8353
sophiewilliams answered that earlier;
"My grandma got married herself and that marriage certificate leaves father details blank.  Very frustrating!"

Trish :)

Sorry I missed that bit  ;D

Carol.
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