finding my irish ancestors - GILLING

[coldplayfan]

hi  of my family members were born in durham england by the 1911 census they were living in ireland.matilda gilling born 1891 in durham.margaret gilling born 1887 durham and walter gilling born 1894.i have a record of marriage of matilda to a george green in belfast.i wonder if theres children to this marriage.i have a possible child born 1912 called william john green....margaret gilling married a philip heslop in uk but they were living in ireland on the 1911 census.walter gilling was a lodger with these two aged 18.i wonder if anyone could find out if either of these had children in ireland or any other information that i cant seem to find.deaths or anything.thank you in advance

[Elwyn Soutter]

Birth records for people born less than 100 years ago in Northern Ireland aren’t on-line. You would need to contact GRONI in Belfast to ask them to search.

PRONI (the public record office) in Belfast have this probate file, which relates to a Heslop family from Co Durham with assets in Northern Ireland. I wonder if it’s connected to your family?

Heslop Thomas Paul of 29 Stephenson Terrace Felling county Durham died 18 January 1935 Probate Durham 14 March to Mary Heslop the widow Robert Heslop printer and William Hope railway company's checker. Effects in Northern Ireland £45. Re-sealed Belfast 11 June.

[aghadowey]

Heslop/Gilling household- note 1 child born but presumably not alive-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Victoria__part_of_/Ina_Street/225573/

I checked GRONI's online database for a child born 1911-1915 with father Green* and mother Gill* but nothing came up. However, it's not surprising since George & Matilda weren't married until 1914 in Belfast.

Added- George Green's father called William & Matilda's father Henry.

[garstonite]

were they born in Shadforth,Durham ?
ADDED
could someone find Henry Gilling and Annie Gilling in Shadforth 1901 census - I think Walter / Matilda and Margaret may have had 3 other brothers John b 1882 / Thomas b 1885 / Andrew b 1888 - or do I have it wrong ??

[coldplayfan]

andrew is my grandfather and yes its the correct family.be a bit dissapointed if theres no living ancestors of margaret or matilda

[coldplayfan]

it maybe elwyn im not sure on the heslop side of family.

[aghadowey]

If you are looking for descendants of Margaret (Gilling) Heslop & Matilda (Gilling) Greene it may be that either or both couples did not stay in Belfast/Ireland. A search of some available online Belfast directories didn't show any Heslops and the record Elwyn posted earlier indicates that they may have returned to Durham.

FreeBMD didn't show any possible English/Welsh births for Heslops or Greenes with mother's name Gilling.

[coldplayfan]

i know now walter returned to england.isnt there no deaths for any of them

[aghadowey]

The online civil registration index (Family Search, Ancestry and possibly Find My Past) goes up to 1921 for Northern Ireland counties (up to 1958 for the rest of Ireland). See here for Family Search (free)-
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1408347

GRONI, Belfast has a fairly recent online database which has deaths up to 1939 but searches can only be done up to 5 years at a time-
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/

There is a Belfast Cemetery database (City Cemetery, Dundonald and Roselawn) but there's only 1 Gilling death (Ada Alexander Gilling died 1908 age 5), no Heslops and lots of Greens.
http://www.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialrecords/

Many online directories which cover Belfast here- www.lennonwylie.co.uk

Lots of other online sources mentioned in ANTRIM RESOURCES and IRELAND RESOURCES here on Rootschat so lots for you to look at.