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Rosamond Judith Yates .....Marriage's????
« on: Sunday 26 July 15 12:09 BST (UK) »
Hi all

Looking for a Marriage or two!

Rosamond Judith Yates born 1853 in Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire

she appears on the
1861 census and 1871 census in oxfordshire with her parents Charles Yates (Police Constable) and Ann Yates nee Moyser
0ccupation Seamstress...no worries so far ...then the next time I find her is in

1881 Where is she now and with whom

1891..Living in Islington London
George Louch 60  Head ( Note his age)Boot maker... oxfordshire
Rosamond Louch 34 Wife  Oxfordshire
Catherine Louch   12 Oxfordshire
Elizabeth Louch   8 Holloway London
Henrietta Louch   6  Holloway London

Looking at the children this is what I can see
I think Catherine might have been born out of wedlock

Catherine Emily L Yates born Q1 1879 Oxfordshire
Elizabeth Maria A Louch born Q3 1883 Islington London
Henrietta Rosemond Louch born Q4 1885 Islington London
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then
1901 This looks to be the family under a different surname
Rosomond Gibbons   42 born  widow Charwoman Oxfordshire, England
Catherine Gibbons   22 born Unmarried Confectionery Baker Oxfordshire, England
Henrietta Gibbons   13 born Islington, London, England
George H Gibbons   9 born Islington, London, England
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1911
Rosamond Judith Gibbons 58 Widow Orton, Oxford, England (claiming to have had 10 children 6 dead and 4 living )
George Henry Gibbons 19 Son born Islington he died 21 Aug 1916 France ( Effects returned to his mother)
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So Questions ( There are many lol)
1. please can anyone see ANY marriage for Rosamond Judith Yates to either George Louch

2. Or a marriage for Rosamond Judith Louch to Unknown Gibbons?

3. Where are the family in 1881 ?
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Marriage for Elizabeth Louch
birth abt 1884
Age 23
Spouse George Albert Skelton Age 22
marriage at St Martin, Kentish Town Camden on the 19 May 1907
Father Name George Louch (Dec Boot Maker)
Spouse Father James Skelton Occ  Tailors Cutter

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Marriage for Henrietta Gibbons
born    abt 1887
Age 31
Spouse Frederick Leitch
age 27
marriage at Poole's Park St Anne, Islington on the 7 Apr 1918
Father Name George William Gibbons (Dec Boot maker).................Stepfather?????
Spouse Father Charles William Leitch (Dec GNR empoyee)
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ANY help much appreciated

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Re: Rosamond Judith Yates .....Marriage's????
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 26 July 15 13:23 BST (UK) »
Have you ordered any birth certificates yet? They could give you a clue an address etc.
Byrne, Butterfield, Gilbert, Sutcliffe, Furey, Alderson, Warham, to name a few!

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Re: Rosamond Judith Yates .....Marriage's????
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 26 July 15 13:27 BST (UK) »
There is a George Linch occ Shoe Maker (widower) age 46 at 4 Church Street in Oxford in 1881 with a daughter Catherine age 2  :-\

RG9/1502 f106 p19

George Linch 46 bn Cassington, Oxfordshire
Margaret E. Linch 4
Catherine E. Linch 2
Mary A. Scragg   56 (Servt)
Richard Allen   24 (Boarder)
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Re: Rosamond Judith Yates .....Marriage's????
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 26 July 15 13:42 BST (UK) »
This census lists George, Rosamund and Catherines place of birth as Oxford (town of)  ;)

1891..Living in Islington London
George Louch 60  Head ( Note his age)Boot maker... oxfordshire
Rosamond Louch 34 Wife  Oxfordshire
Catherine Louch   12 Oxfordshire
Elizabeth Louch   8 Holloway London
Henrietta Louch   6  Holloway London

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This could be Georges death

March qtr 1895 
George Louch age 67   
Headington reg dist    3a   629
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Re: Rosamond Judith Yates .....Marriage's????
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 26 July 15 14:43 BST (UK) »

This could be Georges death

March qtr 1895 
George Louch age 67   
Headington reg dist    3a   629

for info..

there is another Geo (George) Louch born c1828 Oxford living Headington 1851 - 1891 
1891 ref. RG12; Piece: 1163; Folio: 91; Page: 12, he’s married to Martha and she’s a widow by 1901


1901 This looks to be the family under a different surname
Rosomond Gibbons   42 born  widow Charwoman Oxfordshire, England
Catherine Gibbons   22 born Unmarried Confectionery Baker Oxfordshire, England
Henrietta Gibbons   13 born Islington, London, England
George H Gibbons   9 born Islington, London, England

This looks as if it might be his birth entry
could the 'L' be for surname of father ie LOUCH

Jun 1892 Islington vol 1b page 199
George Henry L YATES

Not seeing a Yates/Louch/Gibbons marriage anywhere ???

1932 Electoral Register Islington
8 Victor Road (this address matches the one given on her dau m/c in 1918)
Rosamond Judith GIBBONS
Other surnames at that address Winder & Roberts





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Re: Rosamond Judith Yates .....Marriage's????
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 26 July 15 15:08 BST (UK) »

This could be Georges death

March qtr 1895 
George Louch age 67   
Headington reg dist    3a   629

for info..

there is another Geo (George) Louch born c1828 Oxford living Headington 1851 - 1891 
1891 ref. RG12; Piece: 1163; Folio: 91; Page: 12, he’s married to Martha and she’s a widow by 1901


That is good Ladyhawk, at least it probably eliminates the death I suggested  ;D
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Re: Rosamond Judith Yates .....Marriage's????
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 26 July 15 15:20 BST (UK) »
Judi - not sure if you have these details

1936 ER Islington
Rosamund Judith GIBBONS is living at 32 St Thomas Road
other surnames at that address are
Cook & Leitch (her dau & family) but Rosamund is not with them 1935

Her married daughter is now living at 133 Plimsoll Road Islington in 1939

Is this her death entry?

Sep 1936 Islington vol 1b page 218
Rosamond GIBBONS age 88 (b1848)  :-\

Sorry have had no luck finding any marriage/s for Rosamund Judith Yates  ???

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Re: Rosamond Judith Yates .....Marriage's????
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 26 July 15 15:57 BST (UK) »
That George LINCH in 1881 (the one that Rosie found)

There is a George Linch occ Shoe Maker (widower) age 46 at 4 Church Street in Oxford in 1881 with a daughter Catherine age 2  :-\

RG9/1502 f106 p19

George Linch 46 bn Cassington, Oxfordshire
Margaret E. Linch 4
Catherine E. Linch 2
Mary A. Scragg   56 (Servt)
Richard Allen   24 (Boarder)

looking for a Margaret E born at the right time/place-I keep coming up with Margaret Ellen YATES.

I've booted, shoed and cordwained ;) just about everyone who would fit George (in 1881)...but I do keep seeing George LINCH.

Heck,I'd just get a few birth certs. (but I always say that and I'm sorry.)

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Re: Rosamond Judith Yates .....Marriage's????
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 26 July 15 16:13 BST (UK) »
There is a George Linch occ Shoe Maker (widower) age 46 at 4 Church Street in Oxford in 1881 with a daughter Catherine age 2  :-\

RG9/1502 f106 p19

George Linch 46 bn Cassington, Oxfordshire
Margaret E. Linch 4
Catherine E. Linch 2
Mary A. Scragg 56 (Servt)
Richard Allen   24 (Boarder)

This looks as if it might be the same George as above on 1851 
HO107; Piece: 1734; Folio: 347; Page: 34
George LOUCH workman single born c1833 Cassington Oxford occ cordwainer

there’s this death
Mar 1875 Headlington
Maria Matilda LOUCH age 63 (checked original typed reads 63)

so did
George LOUCH marry Sep 1872 Oxford
Maria Matilda BUSBY