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Re: Associating a marriage with a date of birth
« Reply #36 on: Monday 03 August 15 15:57 BST (UK) »
We'll have to see. :)

We'll order the certificate tonight and go from there...
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Re: Associating a marriage with a date of birth
« Reply #37 on: Monday 03 August 15 16:01 BST (UK) »
Let us know when it arrives.

If the certificate doesn't assist there remains the possibility that he left a will naming her in her married name.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Associating a marriage with a date of birth
« Reply #38 on: Monday 03 August 15 16:04 BST (UK) »
And there goes another avenue that hadn't even occurred to me!  :o
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Re: Associating a marriage with a date of birth
« Reply #39 on: Monday 03 August 15 16:17 BST (UK) »
And there goes another avenue that hadn't even occurred to me!  :o

I have checked and there's a Probate record for the name we are seeking granted in 2007 in Manchester and the death for that was 3 December 1999.

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Re: Associating a marriage with a date of birth
« Reply #40 on: Monday 03 August 15 16:20 BST (UK) »
Ta!

Much obliged.
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Re: Associating a marriage with a date of birth
« Reply #41 on: Monday 03 August 15 16:23 BST (UK) »
Ta!

Much obliged.

I've amended my post see above.
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Re: Associating a marriage with a date of birth
« Reply #42 on: Monday 03 August 15 16:26 BST (UK) »

I have checked and there's a Probate record for the name we are seeking granted in 2007 in Manchester and the death for that was 3 December 1999.


Excellent :)

Selwonk - see here for probate searches: https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

You can also see the Probate Calendar 1858-1965 on Ancestry, for which I see you have a sub.  That may prove useful when you get back further in your research.  (NB it only gives summary details including the name of the executor - for beneficiaries etc you need to order the will itself).

Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Associating a marriage with a date of birth
« Reply #43 on: Monday 03 August 15 16:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the info; I hadn't spotted that on Ancestry as we're still a bit overwhelmed with the search so far. Definitely useful when we start going backwards a bit more!
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Re: Associating a marriage with a date of birth
« Reply #44 on: Monday 03 August 15 16:43 BST (UK) »
If you order a copy of the will it will cost £10 from HMCTS and you will receive it as a pdf by email in a few working days.

Wills can contain a lot of genealogical information.

If you order a death cert from the GRO at Southport, (don't order certs through Ancestry, they are a middle man and charge highly for the service) they claim to despatch within 5 working days but I'm still waiting for certs ordered on 21st July. There must be a backlog somewhere.

Death certs will contain the name and address of the informant who should be the nearest next of kin. If he was still married then his widow should be the informant unless incapicitated in some way. If the case went to the coroner for post mortem and inquest, then the coroner would be the informant.

If money is no object then go for both, but if I had to chose, it would be the grant and will I would go for, which won't have his cause of death but his date of death (which you also see in the calendar) his last known address, the name and address of the executor and who he wanted to benfit from his estate.

I would then go for the death cert when further funds allowed.

Certs from England & Wales do not contain as much genealogical information as those issued overseas such as Australia.

If you search in future, do no order documents described as Letters of Administration which are granted when there is no will. It will still cost you £10 and you'll get the name and address of the executor but nothing else of any genealogical use.
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