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Re: Do you think I have the correct link?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 27 July 15 19:57 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie,

Thanks for that advice about the "poor relief" I will certainly look into it when I come back from holiday - going away on Friday.

Mary Cochrane was employed as a shawl plaiter in the census records as were her girls as soon as they were old enough - about 10 years old :(

I can't help wondering if Duncan Ferguson the father gave her some sort of financial support - if I have the correct one he could probably have afforded it.

History may have repeated itself 2 generations on where the mother and father never married but the father paid money for his boy. The father died "single" as did the Duncan Ferguson I am looking at.

Thanks for your help.

Dorrie
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« Reply #10 on: Monday 27 July 15 20:06 BST (UK) »
Well Dorrie,

I had my suspicions about the distance from Clackmannan to Perthshire (rural)  ::)

I have found a Duncan Ferguson b c 1829 Clackmannan living with his wife Janet in Clackmannan in 1881 with kids
Thomas c 1856
Duncan c 1861
James c 1863
Margaret c 1865

He's a Brickworks Labourer but if this was "extra marital" maybe the "Farmer" was a cover-up ???

Away to see if he's on the other census in Clackmannan  ;D

Annie
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« Reply #11 on: Monday 27 July 15 20:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie,

Thanks for that I had looked at that Duncan Ferguson before but discounted him as I was obviously looking for a farmer.
The distance from his farm to Clackmannan is approx. 30/40 miles I believe.

You could be correct and it was a cover for his infidelities.
Maybe I am just trying to make the farmer one fit :-\ but don't like putting info in without proof.
Oh well maybe another one of those brick walls that I will never be able to knock down.

Thanks,

Dorrie
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« Reply #12 on: Monday 27 July 15 20:45 BST (UK) »
Dorrie,

Can't find this man on other census born in Clackmannan  :-\

Maybe the Farmer is correct but seems a bit of a distance......................how/when/where did they meet up  ???  ::)

Annie
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Re: Do you think I have the correct link?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 28 July 15 00:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Dorrie - Like looking for a needle in a haystack.  Checked my Duncan Fergusons, nope...no farmers amongst them  ;) Shoemakers, Slaters, etc etc.
Must have been a long term relationship from 1861 to 1871 going on the births of the children?? apart from Janet ?? can't see Duncan trotting backwards and forwards from "wherever" .
Will have a look around and see if I can come up with anything, you never know  ;D

Know Alva pretty well, spent a lot of time there on holidays when I was a kid (long time ago).

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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 28 July 15 10:07 BST (UK) »
Good Morning from Scotland Patvp,

Thanks for looking at your Duncan Ferguson line for me.
I am beginning to wonder what kind of woman Mary Cochrane was ;D and did they all actually have the same father? even if they used the name Ferguson? Maybe that was the name of the first child's father and she continued to use the "mythical" name for the others - maybe it looked more respectable. I believe here in Scotland you could call yourself anything you liked as long as no fraud was intended.
Oh well, just have to accept that its not going to be possible to "prove" anything. :'(
Thank you all for your help.

Dorrie
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« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 28 July 15 16:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Dorrie,
Mary's sister Margaret as I'm sure you know also had a child about 1860 called James McEwen. By 1871 Margaret is still single and has had another child but this second one is called Cochrane.

One other thing which may be of no relevance whatsoever but there are at least three other boys called Duncan Ferguson born in Alloa in the 1860s all seem to be fathered by men called Alexander Ferguson - somehow that strikes me as a bit unusual.
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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 28 July 15 17:58 BST (UK) »
Hello Jen,
Thanks for your info. No I had not looked at Mary's sister Margaret yet - will do so now.

Will also check on the other Duncan Fergusons born in Alloa in 1860's to see if I can get any other clues.

Also check out Alexander Ferguson to see if he possibly had a brother Duncan.

These Ferguson lads seem to have been very busy boys ::)

Finding the correct "Duncan Ferguson" supposed farmer may never be possible :'(

Thanks again,

Dorrie
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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 29 July 15 14:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks to you all for your help with my mysterious "Duncan Ferguson" farmer.

I have now got his death certificate & will from SP. His death was registered by his brother George and in his will he left everything to his unmarried sister Janet and a nephew - John. No mention of any children legitimate or otherwise.

Looks certain now that this is not my link. Oh well you can't win them all - but never say "give up".

I will certainly look into Mary Cochrane getting parish relief at some point.

Again, thanks to you all.

Dorrie
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Madden, County Westmeath
Patrick, Fife
Easson, Fife
Leslie, Fife
Paterson, Fife