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Re: lookup of birth William Hobby Bendigo Victoria
« Reply #9 on: Friday 31 July 15 10:55 BST (UK) »
JM would have more knowledge than me, but from memory I think that the Broken Hill district is notorious for missing registration records, but I don't know if they were as lax with the church records.

Debra  :)

Yes, there's flaws in the NSW BDM records for Broken Hill district.   I will check and confirm some of the possible "gaps".    From memory, it has also been a tad difficult to locate some of the church registers,  I think the Salvation Army ones pre WWI have been among the more difficult to locate.    Some of the issues can be explained as : transient population, various accents, lack of pre-printed forms pre WWI (most registrations were based on verbal information from an informant), varying literacy levels, 'frontier' attitudes, tyranny of distance from Capital city, lack of regulations to monitor quarterly returns to NSW BDM, lack of understanding of the relative importance of collecting statistical information, lack of respect for authorities appointed by 'city folks' .....   And some confusion within Broken Hill as to where to expect 'government regulations' to come from ..... Sydney NSW or from the closest capital city .... Adelaide, SA.... or to use that 'confusion' as an excuse .....

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Re: lookup of birth William Hobby Bendigo Victoria
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 01 August 15 13:10 BST (UK) »
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It also has that he was survived by 2 daughters  Mrs Giles and Mrs Rees...
but I have another daughter who I believe  who died in 2008 in the Barossa "Nellie" who was 98...

Births
8097/1893  HOBBY Ellen  Father William  Mother Emma E  District Broken Hill    
10265/1895  HOBBY    Henry  Father William  Mother Emma E  District Broken Hill    

Death
974/1893     HOBBY    Ellen  Father William  Mother Emma E  District Broken Hill    

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Re: lookup of birth William Hobby Bendigo Victoria
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 01 August 15 13:22 BST (UK) »
Something of a mystery here!

Now found this marriage at Christ Church Kapunda on 1 Oct 1866??
William HOBBY son of Thomas HOBBY, and Ellen PEAT daughter of John AUSTIN.
No ages recorded.  Reg Kap/69/258


Rhonda

1841 Census HO107/393/2/10/6/14/21
Living at Walhampton, Boldre, Hampshire
HOBBY Thomas 35 years  Mariner All born county
HOBBY Ann 30 years
HOBBY John 10 years
HOBBY Ellen 10 years
HOBBY William 10 years
HOBBY Alfred 5 years
HOBBY Thomas 5 years
HOBBY Rose 2 Months
MARSHALL Elizabeth 60 years  Independant

http://www.familyhistorysa.info/shipping/passengerlists.html
HOBBEY / HOBBY Thomas, Ann MARSHMAN, Ellen, William, Alfred, Thomas, Ann, Rosa Elizabeth, Geo, Eliza Mary, Emma arrived in SA 7 Apr 1849 aboard DAVID MALCOLM from London via Plymouth

http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/1849DavidMalcolm.htm

From the Biographical Index of South Australians Not always 100% accurate.  Data should always be checked.

HOBBY Thomas born 1806 England.
Died 24 Dec1876 Adelaide SA
Buried Payneham SA
Arrived 1849 DAVID MALCOLM
Occupation Gardener, Viticulturist
Lived Norwood  Religion Methodist
Married  (1/2) ENG Ann nee MARSHMAN born 1806 England.
Children Ellen 1829-, William 1831-, Alfred 1833-1878, Thomas 1836-, Ann 1838-, Rosa Elizabeth ROBINSON 1841-1916, George 1844-1924, Eliza HONEY 1846-, Emma BARNES 1848-
m: (2/2) Mary Eliza

Births in Victoria
HOBBY Elizabeth
Father William   Mother Ellen AUSTIN
At Iron Bark Gully  1858  Reg#19596

HOBBY Fanny
Father William   Mother Ellen AUSTIN
At Sandhurst  1861  Reg#4663

HOBBY  Alfred Ernest Albert
Father William   Mother Ellen AUSTEN
At Sandhurst  1863  Reg#10636

The above birth certificate would give you all the previous children born prior to 1863.

William HOBBY 8 years of age is with his family 1864 departing Melbourne ie born c1856
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ftf/


Birth
HOBBY Charles
8 May 1865
Father William HOBBY   Mother Ellen AUSTIN
At  Wallaroo Bay   Ade 33/297

As mentioned by Rhonda, the marriage of William's parents after the birth of their children.

HOBBY William  Full age  Status not recorded  Father Thomas HOBBY
PEAT Ellen  Full age  Status not recorded  Father John AUSTIN
1 Oct 1866
At Christ Church - place not recorded    Kap 69/258

Death
HOBBY Helen  44 years  Status Married  Relative William HOBBY [Husband]
20 Mar 1871
Residence Kapunda  Death Place Kapunda  Kap 41/235

Mention of a Wm HOBBY and a Thomas AUSTIN at Kapunda in 1872
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article108269983

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article96120803
The Recorder  27 Aug 1937
OLD PIONEER OF NORTH
Mr. William Hobby Saw Much Hard Work
Mr. William Hobby, who died in Pirie Hospital on Friday after three weeks' stay at the institution, spent many years of his life on pioneering work in the northern part of the State. As a young man he worked on Government dam sinking north of Port Augusta and as far as Olary on the Broken Hill line.
Mr. Hobby was born at Bendigo Victoria 81 years ago. He was early at work with teams, and did a lot of carting for contractors in the country districts of South Australia In 1880 he married Miss Emma Satchell of Williamstown (near Gawler) and went to Broken Hill, where he worked as a teamster in the open cut when the Barrier was in its infancy.
After having lived at Broken Hill many years he came back to this State in 1896. and settled at Kersbrook. Later he removed to Williamstown where Mrs. Hobby died three years ago.
Mr. Hobby, who had been blind for the past 12 years, was a constant sufferer in later life, and was a victim of many heart attacks. He had been in Pirie Hospital three weeks when the
end came.
There are two daughter and one son left— Mesdames. G. Rees ( Adelaide) and E. C. Giles (Pirie) and Mr. S Hobby (Cambrai)

Interred at Port Pirie Cemetery
HOBBY William  81 years 
Section COMMON PROTESTANT 1  Grave#167
Last Residence Port Pirie   
Buried  28 Aug 1937
Date of Burial    21/08/1937
Minister Officiating SCHOLEFIELD
Funeral Director    MESCHKE
Burial/Orde#6135
Comments Lease:1574 CP,Lot 167, Grave 3

HOBBY     Emma Ellen  68 years
Cemetery    Williamstown
Section    Western S
Grave#21
Date of Burial    11 March 1934

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Re: lookup of birth William Hobby Bendigo Victoria
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 02 August 15 00:56 BST (UK) »
Perhaps Cheran will login again soon to let us know what she thinks of our findings.

It looks like William (snr), (born in 1831) followed the gold stream to Bendigo where most of his children were born and then back to SA
So sad about his wife (Ellen/Helen AUSTIN). And her children were quite young too.
 
There was also this birth in VIC
Birth of Ellen HOBBY jnr

Surname HORBY (sic)  Ellen
Father William
Mother Ellen AUSTIN
Birth Place BRIG
Year 1854
Reg  3037

Another Ellen HOBBY to add to the mix!

Ellen is listed on the newspaper shipping arrival from Melbourne which I have linked above and also on the departure link from Cando.

Ellen HOBBY married BURR.  This is a death notice placed by Fanny WASHINGTON (nee HOBBY) for her sister Ellen BURR in 1936
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/48156080

Marriage of Fanny HOBBY at fathers home, (but father not named) to David WASHINGTON 1878
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/197708344

The death of Fanny Washington in 1950 aged 89. Parents not mentioned.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/45666489
 
A SA marriage announcement for the marriage of Albert Ernest Alfred HOBBY,second  son of the late William Hobby to MORGAN Ellen 1892.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/92299268

So we have yet another Ellen HOBBY! ;D

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Re: lookup of birth William Hobby Bendigo Victoria
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 02 August 15 02:07 BST (UK) »
but I have another daughter who I believe  who died in 2008 in the Barossa "Nellie" who was 98...

I am looking to confirm

Williams birth and his parents?
Nellie's birth as well as a brother's birth - Henry


 
Cheran ???

So, just going back to part of your original inquiry, Cheran.

I think Nellie HOBBY was HOBBY by marriage.

Here are the details of her burial-

Williamstown Cemetery
HOBBY Nellie   
Section Eastern A
Plot/Grave/Niche 59
Last Residence   Barossa Village, Moppa Road, NURIOOTPA
Death 22 August 2008
Aged  98
Burial 27 August 2008
Minister Officiating Rev Doug Schultz

Close proximity to-

Williamstown Cemetery
HOBBY   Leonard Alfred   
Section Eastern A
Plot/Grave/Niche 60
Death 4 August 1981
Aged  78

Birth
https://www.genealogysa.org.au/index.php?option=com_search&Itemid=32
1902   HOBBY Leonard Alfred Father Henry HOBBY. Mother Annie SELWAY. At Talunga.  Reg 706/457

Newspaper death notices is available -
https://www.genealogysa.org.au/index.php?option=com_search&Itemid=32

And one  also for Nellie.
https://www.genealogysa.org.au/index.php?option=com_search&Itemid=32

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Re: lookup of birth William Hobby Bendigo Victoria
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 02 August 15 02:45 BST (UK) »
Yes, Nellie was nee STOTT.

Here is a marriage announcement for Leonard Alfred HOBBY and Nell STOTT.
19th Oct, 1940. The Advertiser.

STOTT—HOBBY.—The marriage of Nellie, daughter or Mrs. and the late Mr. H Stott.
of Chain of Ponds, to Alfred Leonard (Len) son or the late Mr. and Mrs. H. Hobby. Kersbrook will be solemnised at Woodvllle Methodist Church, on the 26th of October, at 8.15. Friends and relatives cordially invited to ceremony.

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Re: lookup of birth William Hobby Bendigo Victoria
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 02:49 BST (UK) »
my apologies for not getting back to this sooner...

Many thanks for all the help....  think I finally found the missing link for William Hobby's son (c 1857-1937)     Henry (Harry) Hobby   born in 1895 in Broken Hill died 27 December 1935 at Northfield  residence Cambrai South Australia

thanks for all the help amazing as usual

Cheran

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article74134469   this memorial that triggered me looking for a Harry.  He is buried at the Cambrai Cemetery.