Find birth record of GM, Scotland 1885-1895

[Anguts]

Looking fir birth record of a Nellie smith (alias Ellen or Helen),  married Joseph Hamill on dec 31/09 he died in ww1 1915.  This is in dumbartonshire Scotland.  Her parents James smith, coal miner, mother Agnes smith, nee Paterson.  Address at time of marriage was 44 new street, Duntocker.  She remarried later to a man called Toland (Tolland). Immigrated with 3 girls to Canada.  Where was she born, and when

Thanks. Mar

[jim1]

Hello & welcome
How old was she when she married?

[Rosinish]

Looking fir birth record of a Nellie smith (alias Ellen or Helen),  married Joseph Hamill on dec 31/09 he died in ww1 1915.  This is in dumbartonshire Scotland.  Her parents James smith, coal miner, mother Agnes smith, nee Paterson.  Address at time of marriage was 44 new street, Duntocker.

Hi Anguts,

Can you tell us what age Ellen/Helen/Nellie was when she married on both records & what years was she married 

1 has 31/09..........is this a marriage & what year 

Annie

[Rosinish]

Hello & welcome
How old was she when she married?

Sorry jim............beat me to it 

Annie

[rosie17]

Hi and welcome from me also have you tried looking for a birth on Scotlands People ..
I'm assuming this is her husband Joseph Hamill born 1888 Old Kilpatrick died 11/10/1915 enlisted Dumbarton ?

[jim1]

On Joseph's service records she refers to herself as Ellen.

[rosie17]

This looks like her going to Canada to join her husband she has 1 daughter Ellen Toland with her age 3
Helen Toland born 1892 Hamilton Glasgow address 634 Dumbarton Road Dalmuir this address corresponds with the army records for her first husband
She is going to join her husband John Toland in Alberta contact details she lists her brother George Smith
Date 18/4/1924

[jim1]

If I've got the right Helen she was 1 in 1891.
James Smith  36 miner
 Agnes Smith  34
 James Smith  16
 George Smith  12
 William Smith  11
 Alex Smith  10
 John Smith  8
 Matthew Smith  6
 Agnes Smith  5
 Joseph Smith  3
 Helen Smith  1 b.Hamilton Lanarkshire

There are 3 Helen Smith births registered in Hamilton 1890-2 with 2 in 1890.

[rosie17]

This might be her in the 1891 census address Allanshaw Row Hamilton Glasgow
Helen Smith b 1890 Hamilton with her parent's
James Smith b 1855 Haddington age 36 miner
Agnes Smith b 1857 Hamilton age 34
with several other family members including a George