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Wardle - Congleton Cheshire
« on: Tuesday 04 August 15 08:46 BST (UK) »
Just joined, I am looking for the Christian name of my maternal great grandmother. Her surname was Wardle and she lived in Congleton Cheshire and worked in the silk mill owned by Samuel Pearson some time around the early 1800s she had three children, William ( my grandfather ) Harry, and Eliza. I don't know where to start, any tips? My grand father told the family a dark secret, that both he and both siblings were born out of wedlock and the father was Samuel Pearson of Buglawton Hall. Apparently all children used to visit the hall frequently and that Samuel Pearson had been very good to the family !!! Any help or leads would be great. Thanks Polly

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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 04 August 15 08:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Pollywardle - welcome to Rootschat!

Have you found your grandfather and his siblings' baptisms?  That should give your gt grandmother's name.  If you manage to get sight of the original baptism record you might get lucky - some vicars/ministers wrote down the name of the reputed father on baptisms of illegitimate children.

Do you know when your grandfather was born?

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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 04 August 15 10:34 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat.

The golden rule is to start with what you know. So start with your grandfather - can you give us his full name, date of birth and where he was born. Then hopefully we can find the family in a census and that should give us his mother's first name.

There is this family in the 1891 census - could that be them?

RG12; Piece: 2817; Folio: 98; Page: 11
Macclesfield

Martha Wardle   42   single   charwoman     
Harry Wardle   12  son
William Wardle    9  son
Eliza Wardle    6  daughter
Eliza Wardle   73  mother widow
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Re: Wardle - Congleton Cheshire
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 04 August 15 13:46 BST (UK) »
Following on from Groom's census record there is a baptism for an Eliza Wardle, mother Martha on the familysearch site:-

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NTJG-Q93
GOATER, LAN, ALL
BOURKE, MAYO/ LAN
LONERGAN, TIP
McGREAL, MAYO
FLAHERTY, GALWAY/ ALL
HOUGH, LAN/ ALL


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Re: Wardle - Congleton Cheshire
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 04 August 15 14:10 BST (UK) »
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Re: Wardle - Congleton Cheshire
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 04 August 15 14:16 BST (UK) »
1861 census - Martha Wardle is a silk factory worker :-

John Wardle, 42
Eliza Wardle 42
Sarah Ann 18, Elizabeth 13, Martha 12, Harriet 4 & Samuel 1 all born Maccesfield

ref: RG09/ 2579/ 40 / 11
GOATER, LAN, ALL
BOURKE, MAYO/ LAN
LONERGAN, TIP
McGREAL, MAYO
FLAHERTY, GALWAY/ ALL
HOUGH, LAN/ ALL

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Re: Wardle - Congleton Cheshire
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 04 August 15 14:19 BST (UK) »
Hi,

This Wardle family were always resident in Macclesfield Cheshire, so about 9 miles from Congleton.
Macclesfield was also centre for Silk Industry.

This is the first Census on which Martha appears (aged 2):-

1851 Census Macclesfield Piece - 2159, Folio -261,Page Number -15.

All born Macclesfield
John Wardle         32  Hand Loom Weaver Silk
Eliza Wardle         32   "        "            "
Sarah Ann Wardle   8   At Home
Elizabeth Wardle   5    "     "
Martha Wardle           2
John T Wardle           2months

Their first Child Sarah Ann was Christened 2nd October 1942 St. Michael, Macclesfield.

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Re: Wardle - Congleton Cheshire
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 04 August 15 14:20 BST (UK) »
My grand father told the family a dark secret, that both he and both siblings were born out of wedlock and the father was Samuel Pearson of Buglawton Hall.

 Apparently all children used to visit the hall frequently and that Samuel Pearson had been very good to the family !!! Any help or leads would be great. Thanks Polly

Hello and welcome to Rootschat :)

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1841 HO107; Piece: 119; Book: 3; ED 15; Folio: 10; Page: 14
Buglawton Hall
Samuel Pearson 55 Silk Manufacturer
Fanny 40, Fanny 8, Julia 7, Charles 6, Thomas 5, Alfred 3, Henry 2, Elizah 1

1851 HO107 Piece 2167 Folio 200 Page 26
Samuel Pearson 65  magistrate and manufacturer b Macclesfield Cheshire
Fanny  45 , Fanny 18 Julia 17 
Henry Cox 28  visitor b Scotland
7 servants

1861 RG 9; Piece: 2609; Folio: 21; Page: 14
Buglawton Hall
Samuel Pearson 75 Macclesfield silk manufactuerer
Fanney 55, Thomas 23, Alfred 22
8 servants

1871  RG10; Piece: 3703; Folio: 9; Page: 11
Buglawton Hall
Samuel Pearson 85 Macclesfield Cheshire Landowner & Silk Manufacturer
Wife Fanny 72 Thomas 33
6 servants



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Re: Wardle - Congleton Cheshire
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 04 August 15 14:25 BST (UK) »
Suspect that the Samuel Pearson in question was actually the son of the one identified by Ladyhawk - the elder had died by the time that the eldest Wardle was conceived in 1878ish.

Samuel Pearson jnr was born in 1827.  He took over Buglawton Hall when his father died.