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Death of Lucy Watkins 1828
« on: Tuesday 04 August 15 13:16 BST (UK) »
Hello

Lucy Watkins, the illegitimate child of William Watkins and Ann Abraham was born in Neath in 1828.

She can be found in the 1841 and 1851 census living with her family

In the 1861 census, she is apparently married, her surname being Parker.

There is a marriage in 1853 of a Lucy Watkins and John Parker, this must be them.

What has confused me is that John is absent on the 1861 census, so I don't have an age for him and more interesting is that Lucy disappears from the census after 1861.

I also cannot find a death record for her

I would appreciate it if someone could assist in finding out what happened to her.

It is possible she remarried, as there is a marriage in Norfolk to Peter Seaman in 1870, but I am not certain.

thanks

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Re: Death of Lucy Watkins 1828
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 04 August 15 18:00 BST (UK) »
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In the 1861 census, she is apparently married, her surname being Parker.

Any children?  Where was she living in 1861?

Haven't you looked up the 1871 entry for Peter Seaman to compare details?  There is a Parker child but Lucy's details do not match what you have given so you may have the wrong Parker marriage
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Re: Death of Lucy Watkins 1828
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 04 August 15 18:41 BST (UK) »
Hi This return looks to be the one possibly associated with John Parker:-

Lucy Parker 33 Married occ Hawker in Earthenware b Neath ( on original)
Residing at Green Court, Neath
Census Ref RG09/4086/29/21
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EDIT their is also another Lucy Watkins marriage:-

Lucy Watkins Sept qtr 1861 Neath 11a 547, who to? Levy Watkins in 1871 is with a Phoebe?

Also when did Richard Morgan marry a Lucy from 1861 he is single, 1871 RG10/5430/30/21 1881 RG11/5341/6/5
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Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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Re: Death of Lucy Watkins 1828
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 04 August 15 22:03 BST (UK) »
Lucy parker the hawker is in trouble with the police in Carmarthen in 1860 - http://newspapers.library.wales/view/4350884/4350889/31/ - and possibly also for wounding in 1865 in Neath - http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3094502/3094508/41/


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Re: Death of Lucy Watkins 1828
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 05 August 15 09:24 BST (UK) »
thanks Mabel good find

Looks like Lucy was a bit of a troublemaker, not the first Watkins family member to get involved with the police.

Still no idea of why she isn't on later censuses, maybe she stayed in Camarthan

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Re: Death of Lucy Watkins 1828
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 05 August 15 16:39 BST (UK) »
Hi This return looks to be the one possibly associated with John Parker:-

Lucy Parker 33 Married occ Hawker in Earthenware b Neath ( on original)
Residing at Green Court, Neath
Census Ref RG09/4086/29/21
Keyboard86

EDIT their is also another Lucy Watkins marriage:-

Lucy Watkins Sept qtr 1861 Neath 11a 547, who to? Levy Watkins in 1871 is with a Phoebe?

Also when did Richard Morgan marry a Lucy from 1861 he is single, 1871 RG10/5430/30/21 1881 RG11/5341/6/5
Keyboard86

Have you checked this out?
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Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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Re: Death of Lucy Watkins 1828
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 24 February 16 21:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi guys been a while

Still haven't had much luck finding a death

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Re: Death of Lucy Watkins 1828
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 25 February 16 00:12 GMT (UK) »
You haven't answered the question asked above by Keyboard

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Have you checked this out?
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Re: Death of Lucy Watkins 1828
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 25 February 16 13:32 GMT (UK) »
I'm sorry, I don't understand what keyboard is asking  :-\

Is he asking if the census return is correct?