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Question about Parish Records..
« on: Monday 10 August 15 08:48 BST (UK) »
In Parish Records..

How can you locate a date of birth of someone, as it does not state their age in their Parish marriage information?

or can i get the DOB from somewhere else ?

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Re: Question about Parish Records..
« Reply #1 on: Monday 10 August 15 08:49 BST (UK) »
Is is before or after 1837?
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Re: Question about Parish Records..
« Reply #2 on: Monday 10 August 15 08:52 BST (UK) »
What years are we talking about?    Post 1837 the birth certificate, if it was registered, will show date of birth but prior to that Parish Records vary according to the whim of the vicar.   Some mention dob on the baptism record but others don't and it can be very difficult to discover.  Some children were quite old before they were baptised.   Being of full age at marriage means over 21 so not very helpful!

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Re: Question about Parish Records..
« Reply #3 on: Monday 10 August 15 09:11 BST (UK) »
You have to get the record from somewhere else.

But you can make an educated guess. As noted full age means over 21. So a birth must be at least 21 years before that . I would usually start with a 10 year gap before that - just to be sure.

Not foolproof but it narrows things down

Added: Another way , and one in which I have been given some guidance, is to check age at death

ie I had a marriage in 1769 - go back 21 years takes me to 1748 -10 gives me a spread to 1738. Couldn't see a baptism so checked a death record. I have a possible death in 1803 aged 65 which fits within my parameters so I will pencil that in and chase a date around 1738. Once again not foolproof but saves a bit of time
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Paternal: Gibbins,McNamara, Jenkins, Schumann,  Inwood, Sheehan, Quinlan, Tierney, Cole

Maternal: Munn, Simpson , Brighton, Clayfield, Westmacott, Corbell, Hatherell, Blacksell/Blackstone, Boothey , Muirhead

Son: Bull, Kneebone, Lehmann, Cronin, Fowler, Yates, Biglands, Rix, Carpenter, Pethick, Carrick, Male, London, Jacka, Tilbrook, Scott, Hampshire, Buckley

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Re: Question about Parish Records..
« Reply #4 on: Monday 10 August 15 09:42 BST (UK) »

William Watt and Anne Geddes

Married on

02/03/1817 in Cairnie, Huntly, Aberdeen, Scotland

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Re: Question about Parish Records..
« Reply #5 on: Monday 10 August 15 09:48 BST (UK) »
dgibbins02

I have two dates in that era, but i dont know which one is her.....


Anne GEDDES

b 14/07/1786 to John GEDDES & Jean SIMSON in Cairnie, Aberdeen

or

b 08/08/1789 to Alexander GEDDES & Jean SIMSON in Cairnie, Aberdeen


Now i assume that Anne was alive in 1855 as her sons marriage cert does not say she was deceased, am i correct in assuming that ?

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Re: Question about Parish Records..
« Reply #6 on: Monday 10 August 15 09:57 BST (UK) »
Possibly. I will let others answer that but I think it would be a fair assumption.

What were the childrens names. Scottish naming patterns were very strong at that time

First son is named for the Father's Father.
 Second son is named for the Mother's Father.
 Third son is named for the Father's Father's Father.
 Fourth son is named for the Mother's Mother's Father.
 Fifth son is named for the Father's Mother's Father.
 Sixth son is named for the Mother's Father's Father.
 Seventh through Tenth sons are named for the Father's Great-Grandfathers.
 Tenth through Fourteenth sons for the Mother's Great-Grandfathers.

First daughter is named for the Mother's Mother.
 Second daughter is named for the Father's Mother.
 Third daughter is named for the Mother's Father's Mother.
 Fourth daughter is named for the Father's Father's Mother.
 Fifth daughter is named for the Mother's Mother's Mother.
 Sixth daughter is named for the Father's Mother's Mother.
 Seventh through tenth daughters are named for the Mother's Great-Grandmothers.
 Tenth through fourteenth daughters for the Father's Great-Grandmothers.


You can usually use that to suggest possibilities
Genealogy-Its a family thing

Paternal: Gibbins,McNamara, Jenkins, Schumann,  Inwood, Sheehan, Quinlan, Tierney, Cole

Maternal: Munn, Simpson , Brighton, Clayfield, Westmacott, Corbell, Hatherell, Blacksell/Blackstone, Boothey , Muirhead

Son: Bull, Kneebone, Lehmann, Cronin, Fowler, Yates, Biglands, Rix, Carpenter, Pethick, Carrick, Male, London, Jacka, Tilbrook, Scott, Hampshire, Buckley

Brickwalls-   Schumann, Simpson,Westmacott/Wennicot
Scott, Cronin
Gedmatch Kit : T812072

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Re: Question about Parish Records..
« Reply #7 on: Monday 10 August 15 10:13 BST (UK) »
There are plenty of the name "John" and "Jean/Jane/Jeanie" but never came across an Alexander.

In fact John is in every generation up to the present day.

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Re: Question about Parish Records..
« Reply #8 on: Monday 10 August 15 10:32 BST (UK) »
Hi

The 1851 Scottish Census has the following family at Wester Auldtown, Cairnie, all born Cairnie

William Watt 78 Farmer Of 5 Acres Employing No Labourer
Ann Watt 68 wife
George Jessiman 5 grandson

Familysearch has the following

George Jessiman born 14 Oct 1845, father George Jessiman, mother Janet Watt
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYXS-Z96

Andy