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Re: Brick wall in my tree! George Ernest Williams died in Islington, London 1988
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 12 August 15 00:12 BST (UK) »
I suggest you have a look on the 1911 census for Florence - but using her middle name of Daisy.

We can't post info from that census on here for you.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Brick wall in my tree! George Ernest Williams died in Islington, London 1988
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 12 August 15 00:16 BST (UK) »
Okay so search daisy Williams in 1911 census on ancestry?
Okay I found her but it says there is no-one with the name Ernest George Williams in the household? My granddad says his name was Ernest, on the census its different... Maybe my granddad made a mistake?
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and it also says George d.o.b was abt 1907
Hall, Alger, Williams - (Islington) London, England
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Re: Brick wall in my tree! George Ernest Williams died in Islington, London 1988
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 12 August 15 00:19 BST (UK) »
Yes. Try with birthdate 1910 +/-1 yr and specify mother's name Lottie.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Brick wall in my tree! George Ernest Williams died in Islington, London 1988
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 12 August 15 00:22 BST (UK) »
I found one with the requirements you stated but it does not say a George Williams nor ernest Williams?
Jsavage00
edited to add:
George might not have had been born yet and Ernest might just be a mistake made by my grandfather...!
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Hall, Alger, Williams - (Islington) London, England
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Jennings - Ireland/England

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Re: Brick wall in my tree! George Ernest Williams died in Islington, London 1988
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 12 August 15 00:23 BST (UK) »
I think your granddad may have made a mistake as to the father's name.

Henry Williams married Lottie Dutton in Shoreditch in Jun qtr 1907.

I believe they are likely to be the parents of Florence Daisy and also of George.

Birth for him: George E Williams, mother's maiden name Dutton, Sep qtr 1919 Shoreditch vol 1c p81.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Brick wall in my tree! George Ernest Williams died in Islington, London 1988
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 12 August 15 00:26 BST (UK) »
Okay, so what is all the information that has been discovered so I can put it in a family tree and see what pops up? Thank you!!
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Hall, Alger, Williams - (Islington) London, England
Savage - Scotland/England
Jennings - Ireland/England

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Re: Brick wall in my tree! George Ernest Williams died in Islington, London 1988
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 12 August 15 00:26 BST (UK) »
If you search FreeBMD for Williams births with mother's maiden name Dutton in Shoreditch district, you will see some others who may ring bells in family memories.  One of them had a name which might have been shortened to "Bert".
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Brick wall in my tree! George Ernest Williams died in Islington, London 1988
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 12 August 15 00:43 BST (UK) »
I am going offline now - once you've digested things from here I would urge you to purchase the marriage certificate for George and Winifred to obtain concrete information which should help you consolidate what has been found and give you a solid basis for tracing further back.  Do keep us posted :)

Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Brick wall in my tree! George Ernest Williams died in Islington, London 1988
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 12 August 15 00:48 BST (UK) »
My Grandad said he doesn't know a bert Williams when asked today although he kept going on about him...?
He said the guy who moved to new south wales was Richard.
Thank You
Jsavage00

edited to add:
okay me too, on Thursday I will update this with new information, hopefully some siblings are in letters/diaries.
Jsavage00
Hall, Alger, Williams - (Islington) London, England
Savage - Scotland/England
Jennings - Ireland/England