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Re: WW1 regiment help please
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 15 August 15 10:51 BST (UK) »
On the question of Lanyards,   They could be just an inexpensive accessory that a man who did not need one as a part of his official uniform, would buy and wear  for a photograph.

I know this because my dad wore one for his marriage in June 1940.
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« Reply #19 on: Saturday 15 August 15 10:58 BST (UK) »
Oh, got him.  Back to the drawing board!

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« Reply #20 on: Saturday 15 August 15 10:59 BST (UK) »
Can anyone kindly assist with this photo please?  Someone thought the Black and Tans?

He was born 1900, Mitcham Surrey.

That is absolutely uncanny. The photo you have posted is the image of my g.uncle who served in WW1. Despite the different uniform, compare the face and expression. It could easily be the same man. Weird.
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Re: WW1 regiment help please
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 15 August 15 11:56 BST (UK) »
Dale,
Uncanny.
Looking at the nose and the way the mouth is in both pics I would also say it is the same person....even though I feel that it can't be!
What is your uncle's name???
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« Reply #22 on: Saturday 15 August 15 21:14 BST (UK) »
Dale,
Uncanny.
Looking at the nose and the way the mouth is in both pics I would also say it is the same person....even though I feel that it can't be!
What is your uncle's name???

My great uncle was Alfred Canfield Lidbury who served in the 1st South Midland Royal Engineers, a territorial force based in Bristol.

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« Reply #23 on: Monday 17 August 15 09:24 BST (UK) »
Returning to the original question.  Happy to be set straight about the chap's name.  The medal card I suggested in my earlier post I find on further digging belonging to an older man, from Northern Ireland.  Although there are many men by the name of William Johnson in the military records, I can find none of any regiment that have personal information linking with the one described by auntie bertie.  I would conclude that his service/pension records are among those destroyed in WW1.

To illustrate how the Royal Artillery badge can look different in some photos, look at the chap second from right (as viewed from the front) in the top row of this pic of an RGA battery.  The bottom left and right elements of his badge have almost disappeared in a manner very similar to the one in the first post.

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It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



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Re: WW1 regiment help please
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 03 September 15 19:58 BST (UK) »
On the question of Lanyards,   They could be just an inexpensive accessory that a man who did not need one as a part of his official uniform, would buy and wear  for a photograph.

I know this because my dad wore one for his marriage in June 1940.

Most men actually made their own during down time, of which there was was a lot. The issue jack knife was normally attached and stuffed in the top pocket.

The bandolier, unless you can see the rear cannot be used to identify mounted units as the infantry were issued the 1903 ptn leather bandolier  equipment, as were the cavalry/mounted units

http://www.karkeeweb.com/patterns/1903/components/1903_bandoliers.html

The best way to discern mounted or not is to look at the puttees: wound bottom to top, infantry; top to bottom mounted. BUT...the infantry had mounted sections/platoons...so...beware ;)

Collar dogs were mentioned. Very very few units wore them in WW1. They were not usual until the 1922 ptn of service dress uniform came in.

I wouldnt like to say as to what the badge is.

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« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 15 March 16 12:59 GMT (UK) »
A little more info -apparently this is the Home Guard uniform!

His parents 'bought him out' of the army as they had already lost 2 of their sons in 1916.
Apparently he was known as Conchie - which I assume is short for conciencious objector?

Would there be any records of this anywhere?
William Johnson b 30 Sep 1900

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Freer from Leicestershire
Giles from Berkshire
Green from Birmingham
Gurney from Leicestershire
Heffer from Surrey
Randall from Sussex
Robinson from Hinckley
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« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 15 March 16 13:09 GMT (UK) »
A little more info -apparently this is the Home Guard uniform!

His parents 'bought him out' of the army as they had already lost 2 of their sons in 1916.
Apparently he was known as Conchie - which I assume is short for conciencious objector?

Would there be any records of this anywhere?
William Johnson b 30 Sep 1900

TIA.

Which pic are you referring to?? There are definitely no HG pics on this thread.  ???

And as for buying him out in 1916?? Sorry, but this could not/would not have happened. If born in 1900 he was patently too young for the army, and he would hve been discharged as under age, and making a false attestation.
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        May the victors when they come
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