Author Topic: Patrick Mullens/Mullins (m) 1st Elizabeth/Lizzie Warren and 2ndly Mary.  (Read 2687 times)

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Re: Patrick Mullens/Mullins (m) 1st Elizabeth/Lizzie Warren and 2ndly Mary.
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 19 August 15 15:08 BST (UK) »
Eileen's birth 20th October 1900 mothers name transcribed as Marren
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/7d375b1341572

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Re: Patrick Mullens/Mullins (m) 1st Elizabeth/Lizzie Warren and 2ndly Mary.
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 19 August 15 18:50 BST (UK) »
Hi

A massive THANK YOU to you both for all the information provided.  I've a lot to digest here so will revert tomorrow.

Again, I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your time.

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Re: Patrick Mullens/Mullins (m) 1st Elizabeth/Lizzie Warren and 2ndly Mary.
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 20 August 15 19:26 BST (UK) »
Hi all

I was certain that Elizabeth/Lizzie only had one son Fred and one daighter Eileen Maud, b 20 Oct 1900, which fits with the 1911 census.

BUT Eileen is missing at time of 1911 census and another girl, Hanna Stashe age 9 - is included??

Working back 9 years from this 1911 census would bring us to Elizabeth/Lizzie's death in 1902.

The 8 year old E.M. in the Industrial School on the 1911 census wouldn't really fit.  I know we need to be liberal with ages, but Eileen was born 20 Oct 1900 - would that not be too big a gap?

Your thoughts are very much appreciated.

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Re: Patrick Mullens/Mullins (m) 1st Elizabeth/Lizzie Warren and 2ndly Mary.
« Reply #12 on: Friday 21 August 15 09:02 BST (UK) »
Have you got Lizzie's death cert
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FTXJ-LPR
could she have died in childbirth to Anastasia or complications caused by same,if so Patrick may have forgotten to register her birth.


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Re: Patrick Mullens/Mullins (m) 1st Elizabeth/Lizzie Warren and 2ndly Mary.
« Reply #13 on: Friday 21 August 15 09:18 BST (UK) »
As Patrick and Mary Rainsford did'nt marry till 1907 Anastasia must be Lizzie's child ?

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Re: Patrick Mullens/Mullins (m) 1st Elizabeth/Lizzie Warren and 2ndly Mary.
« Reply #14 on: Friday 21 August 15 09:24 BST (UK) »
As I suggested earlier, 'Hanna Stashe' could be Mary's child from another relationship.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!