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Help re wills please
« on: Thursday 10 September 15 00:49 BST (UK) »
Is there any way of finding out who inherited money after lord Kitcheners death ?
im researching whether or not my great great grandmother was his cousin and ...rumours abound  ;D
my great uncle mysteriously came into money after kitcheners death ....just a shot in the dark
thanks in advance for any help
kath

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Re: HELP RE WILLS PLEASE
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 10 September 15 02:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Undautri, Could you tell us your gggrandmother's name? Presumably if she was Lord Kitchener's cousin she was the child of one of his four (I think) siblings. That would be a good place to start. Do you have a birth certificate for her which would give her parents' names? Fran
Leadbetter North Meols
Tyrrell  and Shettle Hampshire
Cope Wolstanton
Rice New York and Sydney
Pidgeon County Wexford
Smail and Cochran Berwickshire
Worling and Harrop Cambridgeshire
Happ Eltville
Harrop and Shettle Suffolk

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Re: HELP RE WILLS PLEASE
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 10 September 15 03:53 BST (UK) »
His will is in the Probate Calendar for 1916 so you can order a copy from HMCTS. Costs £10.

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

Middlesex: KING,  MUMFORD, COOK, ROUSE, GOODALL, BROWN
Oxford: MATTHEWS, MOSS
Kent: SPOONER, THOMAS, KILLICK, COLLINS
Cambs: PRIGG, LEACH
Hants: FOSTER
Montgomery: BREES
Surrey: REEVE

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Re: HELP RE WILLS PLEASE
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 10 September 15 08:10 BST (UK) »
His will is in the Probate Calendar for 1916 so you can order a copy from HMCTS. Costs £10.

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

Or you can view it at the National Archives
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C6688727
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Re: HELP RE WILLS PLEASE
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 10 September 15 08:21 BST (UK) »
im researching whether or not my great great grandmother was his cousin

... your gggrandmother's name? Presumably if she was Lord Kitchener's cousin she was the child of one of his four (I think) siblings. That would be a good place to start. Do you have a birth certificate for her which would give her parents' names?

Child of his sibling would make her Lord Kitchener's niece not his cousin.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: HELP RE WILLS PLEASE
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 10 September 15 08:29 BST (UK) »
Some genealogist, eh? Fran  ;D
Leadbetter North Meols
Tyrrell  and Shettle Hampshire
Cope Wolstanton
Rice New York and Sydney
Pidgeon County Wexford
Smail and Cochran Berwickshire
Worling and Harrop Cambridgeshire
Happ Eltville
Harrop and Shettle Suffolk

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Re: Help re wills please
« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 September 15 01:44 BST (UK) »
thank you very much for your help
she was Louisa  and her surname appears in all types of manner on censuses and certificates- Kirchner/ Kischener/Kichner and possibly Kirkon
 my biggest obstacle is not finding a birth certificate but i have a wedding cert that states her father was named Benjamin Kirchner
she was born between 1827 AND 1833 in co limerick . ireland
The man i believe to have gained money would not have been mentioned in the will but came forward in response to a newspaper article from a solicitor asking for any relatives to contact them . would his name therefore be held at the archives?
thanks again
kath

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Re: Help re wills please
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 12 September 15 10:17 BST (UK) »
Do you know to which denomination the family belonged ?
The National Library of Ireland have released Roman Catholic parish records.
Some Parish records cover the early 1820's but not all. You may be able to find Louisa's Baptism.
Baptism records name parents and sponsors. To start you will need to know which RC Parish.

Have you tried to find Kitchener & variations of surname in Griffiths Valuation ? Property survey taken in the 1850's. You may find hints as to what part of Co Limerick the family were living in.



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Re: Help re wills please
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 12 September 15 12:53 BST (UK) »
thank you very much healyj
youve given me a new place to search
x kath