Belton Marriage: George Isset and Ann Coks

[Vixen60]

I would be most grateful for a look up of the marriage register for this marriage that took place on 21 Jul 1783 in Belton, Rutland.  I wondered whether there might be extra information available such as  whether either had been widowed or  came from another parish.

Thank you

 

[trish1120]

Sorry I cant help with the Marriage but this may be George;

GEORGE Isset, Male, Baptism Date: 8 Jun 1760, Braunston, Rutland, England
Father: William Isset
Mother: Rachel
(Source England Births/Christenings on Anc.)

Other Children;
St Peters, Belton, Rutland
CATHERINE Issit, 23 June 1761
THOS Isset, 30 July 1769
ELIZABETH Isset, 24 April 1772, buried 7 June 1772
ROBERT Isset, 31 July 1774
ELIZABETH Issit, 26 July 1778
Parents WILLIAM/RACHALL or Rachel/Rachal
(Source FreeREG)

Baptised Same Church to GEORGE/ANN;
WM, 28 Feb 1791
ELIZ, 18 Oct 1792
(Parents described as Paupers)

Baptsied to THOS/RACHEL same Church ( I presume the Thomas born 1769)
ANN, 20 Jul 1795
MARY, 5 Dec 1796 (Thomas/Rachael), buried 1 July 1797
JANE, June 1798, buried 6 June 1801
ANN, 20 April 1800, buried 8 Sept 1800

To ROBERT/ELIZABETH same Church (I presume the Robert born 1774)
WM, 22 April 1810 (birth 17 Nov 1808)
FRANCIS, 22 April 1810
THOS, 19 Jan 1812 (Twin)
ELIZ, 19 Jan 1812 (Twin)
(FreeREG)

Burial same Church;
RACHEL, 25 May 1797, Widow of (not named) but likely the one married to William
(FreeREG)


Hopefully someone can find the Marriage for you

[Vixen60]

Thank you so much, Trish
Some of that I had already, but by no means all.
Barbara

[trish1120]

Hi Barbara,
I was looking at a couple of Trees with William 1791 married to a Hannah. Daughter Judith born c 1832 Leicestershire.

Found this 1841 under SPETT;
Image is Isset to me.

1841 Census
Keythorpe House
Tugby, Leicestershire
HO107/591/198/Tugby
William Isset, 50, Ag Lab
Hannah, 45
Judith, 11*****

Looks like a large property, all on page seem to work for Stephen Chapman a Grazier

Trouble is this Judith (now Married by 1851 Census) doesnt have a Father born Rutland

1851 Census
Tugby, Leics
HO107/2080/56/29
William Issitt, 66, Head, Mar, Cottager occcupying about 17 Acres, born Heythorp Lodge, Leicestershire (Keythorpe)
Hannah Issitt, 59, Wife, Mar, born Medbourne, Leicestershire
Mary Issitt, 2, Grand/Daug, born    Keythorpe Ludge, Leicestershire
Eli Pateman, 33, Visitor, Mar, Shepherd, born Hallaton, Leicestershire
All down as born in County

[Vixen60]

Hi Trish
This is the family I am trying to trace back.  Judith is my gg grandmother.  She had an illegitimate child (the granddaughter Mary in the 51 census), then married  in 1850 William Simkin of Hallaton who was a widower. 

Hannah Holmes, b Medbourne, her mother, married William Issit b 1791 in Tugby in 1815.  The bmds seem to be in Belton, Tugby and occasionally East Norton.  I have found mention of an Isset's Lodge at Keythorpe.
Looking at the photographs I don't think they lived in the Hall!
Barbara

[Bunnygirl]

Hi
The marriage gives no further information as to parish etc.
21 July 1783 Belton
George Issett and Ann COCHIS.
Belton burials
.9 June 1790 Catherine Issett daughter of George & Ann
14 Nov 1792 Elizabeth Issitt daughter of George & Ann
15 Mar 1791 William Issitt son of George & Ann.... pauper 
Belton Baptisms
1 June 1788 Catherine
18 Oct 1792 Elizabeth (pauper)
14 Feb 1785 Mary
28 Feb 1791 William
all children of George & Ann

Regards
Bunnygirl

[Vixen60]

Well, that has thrown all my preconceived ideas out of the window.  I has assumed that the William born in 1791 was my ancestor and now you have discovered he died as an infant.  Back to the drawing board.

Thank you so much, Bunnygirl, for redirecting my search.  If Elizabeth was born the following year, there doesn't seem much time for another William to be born in the meantime.  I will have to try again.

[trish1120]

Thanks for that info Bunnygirl.

It confirms what I was trying to say;;
Trouble is this Judith (now Married by 1851 Census) doesnt have a Father born Rutland .

So your William was born c 1786 Keythorpe. Leics, according to the 1851 Census.

Another question;
I cant find the Marriage of Judith Issitt/William Simkin.
Do you actually have the M/C Vixen60?
Is there a Ref for it on FreeBMD?
I can find Judith Issitt Marriage 1850 but no cross reference to William marrying that year.

If you have the M/C I would be interested to see what it said.

Trish

[Vixen60]

Hi Trish
I have a copy of the marriage certificate of Judith to William Simkin (widower) on 9th December 1850.
Her father described as William Issit shepherd.  Witnesses are Eliza N(H)orton and  William Haines, Harper or Warmer- a bit indecipherable.

I originally thought that William Issit was 60 on the 51 census, but a closer look is more like 66 than 60.  Although it says he was born at Keythorpe Lodge, I thought it was not beyond the bounds of possiblity that he had been baptised at Belton, which seemed to be the home of a lot of Issits/Issets.

I found another William Isset whom I considered strongly. He appears to have baptised at Tugby on  21 September 1783.  On the whole I think he is a much better candidate in terms of birth date and place.  He also has a sister Judith.  Parents William and Mary.
Tugby, Leics, Eng.  Not in the records of Family Search but in the genealogies if you seach Issits in Tugby.
Also found a widower William Issit marrying a Mary Jennals in Titlton on the Hill in 1783. His daughter Judith bp in 1780 at Tugby also had a mother Mary, though he may have married 2 Marys.

I'm interested to know why he called his second daughter Jane.

Thank you for your help in making me think straight.
Regards
Barbara