Help please - Albert Weston

[iolaus]

Got myself in a bit of a muddle and was wondering if anyone could help

I'm trying to find the parents of Albert Edmund Weston

On his marriage certificate (5 Oct 1869) he is 19 and states his father is Edmund, a farmer (deceased)

On the 1861 census Albert (aged 12) is in Wilder Street, Bristol with Ed, a 48 year old farmer from Barrow, and Mary, aged 33, also from Barrow (listed as married), and Eliza a 10 year old daughter.

On the 1851 census the only corresponding Albert is living with his mother Mary, aged 24 from Barrow, and his father Thomas, a 28 year old labourer from Barrow.

There is an Edmund is on the 1851 census, a 34 year old UNMARRIED farmer from Barrow (living in Filton), this Edmund then dies in 1862, still a bachelor in Bristol

There is NO record of any marriage for Edmund. 
Thomas Weston marries Mary Stevens in Bristol - haven't found a death for him yet.

Also haven't found a birth record for Albert to purchase as yet - or baptisms for him or Eliza

How reliable is the father on the birth certificate?

I'm leaning towards the idea that Edmund and Thomas are related and Thomas died so Mary lived with her brother in law - and there is an error on the census that they were married to each other, but then why did Albert give Edmunds name on his marriage certificate

[rosie99]

Familysearch has the marriage of Thomas Weston & Mary Stevens
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NFJY-4Y6

Thomas Weston
Mary Stevens
24 January 1847
Bristol, Gloucestershire
Father Shadrach Weston
Spouse Father   George Stevens
Marital Status   Single
Spouse's Marital Status   Single

Thomas was baptised in Barrow Gurney in 1818 parents Shadrach & Ann (freereg)

[Annette7]

Is anyone else having problems with this regarding the 1851 Census?

I first found it on Ancestry but decided to look at the original census page as a Mary White bc.1822 is shown to be a daughter which didn't make sense.   When I clicked to view the original census page the one that comes up does not show them (nor pages either side).   When you look for the reference details it has piece no.1949, page 2 but there is no folio number??   I've looked on 3 other sites and can't find this family listed, nor indeed any of the people said to be on the same page.   All very strange.   I have duly reported this to Ancestry.

The Mary shown on the query 1851 census entry on Ancestry is shown born Cheddar, not Barrow, another reason why I wanted to look at original page.

Why have Ancestry got a listing for 4 people that are not on 3 other sites at all?

Annette

[Jomot]

Cant help with Ancestry problem but I can view the page OK elsewhere and Mary White is marked as a separate household but within the same property (No. 4 Philadelphia Street) & was born Cheddar.

It definitely says Thomas Weston Head Married 28 Labourer b Somerset, Barrow, with Mary 24 as his wife & a ditto for place of birth. Albert, son, aged 2 born Bristol.

Including Mary White there are 10 other people in the property, none obviously related to The Weston family.

The folio is blurred but I think its 164

[Dundee]

I am getting parts of two images overlapping each other like a mosiac.  Probably just a temporary glitch.

Debra 

[Ladyhawk]

There is an Edmund is on the 1851 census, a 34 year old UNMARRIED farmer from Barrow (living in Filton),

this Edmund then dies in 1862, still a bachelor in Bristol

There is NO record of any marriage for Edmund. 

The above  Edmund has a brother named Henry noted as his next of kin

Edmund Weston,  Yeoman
Letters of adminstration & personal estate formely of Horfield but late of Cave Street Bristol
Granted at Bristol to brother Henry Weston of Filton, Yeoman, next of kin

Here's an Edmund & Henry Weston together on 1841 census

HO107 P 346 Book: 3 Filton Gloucestershire  ED20 F 7 P8
Surname transcribed as WATTON
Ann WESTON 60 Farmer
EDMOND 25
Joseph 20
HENRY 20
Edward 18
Elizabeth 20
Only Edward is noted AS born in this county

Burial Pharaoh WESTON age 72 (1769) , abode Filton Gloucester
24 May 1841 St Mary & St Edward Barrow Gurney Somerset (Freereg2)
Bapts Pharaoh WESTON 13 Feb 1770 St Mary & St Edward Barrow Gurney
parents Edward  & Eleanor

This looks to be Henry & Edward with their sister

1851 Piece: 1955 Folio: 296 Page Number:   14
Filton
Charlotte VOWLES widow 38 (1813) Somerset
Kate Eliza dau 11 Filton Gloucestershire
Virtue dau 5
Henry WESTON brother 30 (1821) Somerset Farm Labourer
Edward WESTON brother 28 (1823) Gloucester ditto
Charlotte WESTON married 1838 William Vowles

Baptism Charlotte Weston Barrow Gurney 1812 
parents Pharoah & Nancy -freereg

and this baptism for

Edward Weston Baptism 25 Aug 1822 St Peter Filton, Gloucester, England
Father: Pharoah Weston Mother:Ann

1861  Piece: 1742 Folio:5 Page Number:   3
Charlotte VOWLES  47 Barrow
Henry WESTON brother 40 Barrow Farmer 20 acres

1861 Piece: 1715 Folio: 4 Page Number:   1
Edward WESTON 40 lodger Filton Gloucestershire labourer

[isobelw]

I'm having the same problem as Annette and can't find this census entry on Ancestry or Findmypast. I've just looked at the image for 4 Philadelphia Street using the place search on FindMyPast and they are not listed there.
Isobel

[Ladyhawk]

Familysearch has the marriage of Thomas Weston & Mary Stevens
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NFJY-4Y6

Thomas Weston
Mary Stevens
24 January 1847
Bristol, Gloucestershire
Father Shadrach Weston
Spouse Father   George Stevens
Marital Status   Single
Spouse's Marital Status   Single

For info.

Looks as if Mary remarried

Mary Weston[Mary Stephens]  Age:50
Marriage Date:   2 May 1881St. Matthias, Bristol, Gloucester, England
Father:   George Stephens
Spouse:   John Pearce

1871c RG10; Piece: 2526; Folio: 23; Page: 13
Mary Weston W 45 Barrow shop keeper
there’s a John Pearce lodger 39 Monmouthshire

Looks as if Mary Pearce may have died Dec 1881 Barton Regis
Age 54 (1827)

[LizzieL]

There is a baptism for Shadrack Weston at Barrow Gurney on 21 May 1782, father Edward, mother Elizabeth.
Could he be Thomas's father and Pharoah's half brother?

or could Eleanor and Elizabeth be the same person and they are full brothers.