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Kate Louise Cleife
« on: Friday 09 October 15 12:23 BST (UK) »
I cannot find Kate Louise Cleife on the 1871 or the 1881 census, she was born Oct 1861 in Portsmouth. I have her in the 1891,1901 and the 1911 census with her married name. I was just wondering if anyone has any idea, I have tried all different spellings for her name. Thanks Janet

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Re: Kate Louise Cleife
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 October 15 12:36 BST (UK) »
Hello Janet and welcome

I see she married William Henry Faithwaite in Liverpool, 1 Sep 1882, naming her father as Jacob Cleife, gentleman.  Have you found Jacob anywhere?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Kate Louise Cleife
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 October 15 12:40 BST (UK) »
Hmmm.

I see that Jacob and Matilda Cleife appear in 1871 and 1881 with several children, but not a Kate Louise:

1871: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFDJ-X31

1881: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKXM-18DF
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Kate Louise Cleife
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 October 15 12:50 BST (UK) »
Kate's address at marriage was 41 Aubrey St, Everton.  Unfortunately that address was unoccupied in the 1881 census. 

At 45 Aubrey St, Everton was a Mary J Southworth, 20 b Accrington - possibly the Mary Jane Southworth who was a witness to Kate's marriage.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Kate Louise Cleife
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 October 15 17:51 BST (UK) »
I have found Jacob Cleife, thanks, and his wife Matilda Ponsford. I cannot find Kate in anyone's family tree either, strange. I have her birth certificate. Who is this Mary Jane Southworth? Thanks Janet

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Re: Kate Louise Cleife
« Reply #5 on: Friday 09 October 15 19:14 BST (UK) »
Ok so does the birth certificate confirm that Jacob and Matilda were her parents?

Mary Jane Southworth was, as I mentioned, a witness to Kate's wedding.  She seems to have lived close to Kate's reported address at the time.  She may have been just a friend.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Kate Louise Cleife
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 October 15 16:18 BST (UK) »
Yes Jacob and Matilda were named on Kate's birth certificate, living at 18 Chance Street Portsea. I wonder if she was working in Liverpool in 1881. I must delve even deeper. Janet

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Re: Kate Louise Cleife
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 October 15 22:58 BST (UK) »
I see her birth registration has her surname with two F's.
And her middle name was Louisa (not Louise)

Births Dec 1861   

CLEIFFE    Kate Louisa        Portsea    2b   349
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Re: Kate Louise Cleife
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 11 October 15 13:55 BST (UK) »
Yes Carol I did see that Kate was Kate Louisa Cleiffe on her birth certificate. I have tried all different variations of her name, even her mothers maiden name. I don't think that I will find out where she was, from 1861 until 1891 when she was in Liverpool. Thanks Janet.
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