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Offline Hellie Thomas

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Arthur Frederick Barnes Frost
« on: Sunday 11 October 15 03:52 BST (UK) »
Have hit a brick wall.   The above is my maternal great grandfather but only know he was born 16/2/1846 in Port Elizabeth South Africa and married a widow Annie Frost in 31/1/1875 at St Pauls Port Elizabeth.  They had 6 children - Elizabeth, Lavenia, Arthur, Thomas, Florence and Clara.   Can anyone help?? Hellie

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Re: Arthur Frederick Barnes Frost
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 11 October 15 06:53 BST (UK) »
There a few submitted trees on ancestry for your family,
giving very good details ,
For Arthur Frederick Barnes Frost
son of Philip John Frost and Rachel Rogers
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Arthur Frederick Barnes Frost
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 11 October 15 07:26 BST (UK) »
There is a ton of information here:

http://familia.evemor.com/person-2000112_130863171_130863171/arthur-frederick-barnes-frost

Father: Phillip Barnes FROST, b 21 Feb 1808, Norfolk, Eng.  died 14 Jul 1875, Port Elizabeth
Mother: Rachel ROGERS, b 21 Oct 1809 Norfolk, Eng.  died 1870, Port Elizabeth
Wife: Annie SUTER, married 3 Jan 1875, Port Elizabeth

According to that site he had 6 siblings, plus 4 half siblings from his father's second wife Susanna Margaret RICHARDSON.

It also names his FROST grandparents, they came over to SA from Norfolk, as Settlers in 1820. There are some photos, also an image from a Family Bible type book, with family member dates in it.

Happy hunting!

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Re: Arthur Frederick Barnes Frost
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 11 October 15 23:15 BST (UK) »
Thanks Radcliffe & Ambly.    I was really looking for info regarding his date of death as he and Annie seem to have disappeared.   Also what Annie's maiden name is, as she apparently was a widow when she married Arthur.   May have to have that trip to SA.   Regards  Hellie


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Re: Arthur Frederick Barnes Frost
« Reply #4 on: Monday 12 October 15 00:46 BST (UK) »
Thanks Radcliffe & Ambly.    I was really looking for info regarding his date of death as he and Annie seem to have disappeared.   Also what Annie's maiden name is, as she apparently was a widow when she married Arthur.   May have to have that trip to SA.   Regards  Hellie

Hellie,

People won't know what info. you are actually looking for if you don't mention it initially.

Your request......

The above is my maternal great grandfather but only know he was born 16/2/1846 in Port Elizabeth South Africa and married a widow Annie Frost in 31/1/1875 at St Pauls Port Elizabeth.  They had 6 children - Elizabeth, Lavenia, Arthur, Thomas, Florence and Clara.   Can anyone help??

Have you tried findagrave.com or billiongraves.com

Both have S/African burials although I haven't searched the names you seek.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Arthur Frederick Barnes Frost
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 15:41 BST (UK) »
Philip FROST, Bachelor of Hanworth Parish Married Rachel ROGERS, Spinster, 25 January 1831,
St Peter and St Paul, Sustead, Norfolk
Witnesses, William and Sarah Frost
Bride Signed Surname As RODGERS.

PHILIP BARNES Frost Baptised 28 Feb 1808 (birth 21 Feb 1808) St Mary, Barney, Norfolk
Parents PHILIP/ELIZABETH Frost nee DOUGHTY

They married 13 Apr 1807 St Mary, Sustead
Other Children to Philip/Elizabeth;
JAMES 1810 Sustead
WILLIAM 1813 Holt (Fathers Occp Brickmaker)
JOHN LOWND 1815 Holt
MARY NASH 1819 Holt
Last few have Fathers Occp Brickmaker

Trees have a HANNAH 1811 Costessey to them also but she is the Daughter of PHILIP/HANNAH nee BARNES Married 1810 Costessey

All above on FreeREG

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Re: Arthur Frederick Barnes Frost
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 15:56 BST (UK) »
HANNAH Rogers Baptised 29 Oct 1809, St Peter and St Paul, Sustead
Birth 21 Oct 1809
Parent TYD/HANNAH Nee HERRING
Siblings;
STEPHEN HERRING 1801
HANNAH 1803
JOHN 1806

TED Roger Married Hannah HERRING, 3 November 1789, North Walsham, Norfolk
(Familysearch.Org)

Darn having trouble with FreeREG and cant get Children born 1790-1800ish
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Re: Arthur Frederick Barnes Frost
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 18:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks Radcliffe & Ambly.    I was really looking for info regarding his date of death as he and Annie seem to have disappeared.   

Also what Annie's maiden name is, as she apparently was a widow when she married Arthur

Is it possible that her maiden name may have been given as a middle name for one of their children

Was their son Arthur their first born?

He appears to have the following middle names

RODGERS (possibly named after his grandmother Rachel Rogers) & BINSTED

Dau. Elizabeth b 1877 middle name LENNOX
Son     Thomas b 1883 middle name OSWALD

Wife Annie born c1854 SA that would make her around 21 when she married Arthur Snr.
she must have married & been widowed very young.

I don’t know what type of information is available online for SA records – is there a b/c avaialble of one of their children to confirm mother Annie's maiden name?

If available perhaps you could try searching for marriages to a ? Suter/ Ann(ie) Binsted/Lennox or Oswald  :-\

Don't know how accurate this info. is https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:3QNV-KWK
"does not show the name of Frederick as he is listed only as Arthur Barnes on his Death Notice (no date given)  ???


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