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James Henry Rendle
« on: Sunday 11 October 15 07:12 BST (UK) »
I'm trying to find out what happened to James Henry Rendle.
He was born about 1868 in Devon (I think). There are 2 that could be him - one born 1867 in Torquay to George Rendle and Mary Howard, the other b.1868 in Plymouth to James Edwin Rendle and his wife (not certain of her name).
On 17th March 1912 he emigrated to Canada on 'Hesperian' and in 1921 he was working in Alberta (98th St, Edmonton) as a government employed janitor. With him were his 'wife' Alice (no marriage record found yet), son (actually his stepson) Raymond and daughter Eva. Alice returned to England (Oxford) in 1936 with Raymond, Eva and a second daughter Alice Irene.
I can't find any further record of James Henry and would be grateful if anyone can help, either with his origins or his life after 1921.

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Re: James Henry Rendle
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 11 October 15 08:14 BST (UK) »
There is a distinct possibility for the marriage?

December qtr 1894
Newton Abbott Registration District     vol 5b, page 308

Rendle, James Henry
Freer, Emily Alice
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: James Henry Rendle
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 11 October 15 09:20 BST (UK) »
According to parish records, the 1894 marriage was between James Henry Rendle (son of George) and Thirza Ann Oldreive. :(
ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: James Henry Rendle
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 11 October 15 09:38 BST (UK) »
What occupation did he give on the shipping records?

Both Plymouth and Torquay men seem to be married by 1911 not to an Alice though .

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Re: James Henry Rendle
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 11 October 15 09:50 BST (UK) »
Hi

 best way forward is to work backwards...so...

 Alice M C Rendle b @ 1880 dies in Cheltenham reg district in 1958
 an Alice Mary Castell Bellamy is born in Oxford in 1880 father Montague Edward James Buttwell Bellamy and his wife Mary nee Castell.
 In 1911 she is in Fulham as a governess and single.
 In 1912 in Reigate a birth is registered as Raymond R J Bellamy mmn Bellamy.
 4th April 1913 onboard the Victorian there are listed an
 Alice M Jameson? (hard to read ) married GOVERNESS and a Raymond R aged 8 months.
 If they do marry its in Canada and I have found an online tree that does list her with James Rendle.
  Alice has a brother who also goes out to Canada dying there after War service in 1923. They give an address in Oxford on their return.Also an Eva Rendle marries in Cheltenham reg district.
 Any ideas from there...?

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Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: James Henry Rendle
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 11 October 15 11:35 BST (UK) »
 Hi All....

 I have found the birth cert of Alice Irene Rendle.
 It says..

 Alice Irene Rendle 6th September 1924
 place of birth Edmonton
 name of father James Henry Rendle place of birth Plymouth England occupation caretaker
 name of mother before marriage Alice Mary Castell Bellamy place of birth Oxford England
 registered 15 September 1924.
 cert carries the date also of 2nd Dec 1944 listed as British Civil Service evidence of age.
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Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: James Henry Rendle
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 11 October 15 11:53 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all your help.
His occupation given when he emigrated to Canada was labourer.
All the information you have found is what I already have. I have 7 marriages for a James or James Henry in Devon.
My suspicion is that he did a runner in 1912, having got to know Alice Bellamy. She already had an illigitimate child - Raymond Richard Jimenez Bellamy. The name Jimenez comes from his birth certificate -no father named. But the unusual name got me searching the area where Alice was living and working as a governess. I found a family (Cuban merchants) a couple of streets away with a son of the right age (Richard, b.1883) to father the child.
In 1916 there is a record of Alice, calling herself Alice Jameson (!) with a son Raymond living with her aunt, Louisa Bellamy at 98th St, Alberta, Canada. Louisa had emigrated with stepsons Frederick and Sidney and her own son Arthur in 1912. I'm afraid it is very complicated!!
When James Henry Rendle got together with Alice in Canada he acknowledged Raymond as his son and went on to have 2 daughters with Alice. I don't know if they ever got married but Alice called herself Rendle on the 1921 census and also when she returned to UK. Either James Henry died or she left him. I'd love to know which! The Canadian branch of the family have had no luck with their investigations either.
Just read Tazzie's post. Alice Irene was the second daughter born to James and Alice. This establishes James' birthplace as Plymouth. That's really helpful. I presume the reference to the Civil Service relates to Alice Irene and not James.

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Re: James Henry Rendle
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 11 October 15 12:00 BST (UK) »
Now that I've established James was born in Plymouth, I can throw in another complication.
I have a marriage for a James Henry Randle to Laura Louisa Kerswell in 1892 in Plymouth. In 1901 they were living in Willesden, London. He was a plasterer. I can't find them in 1911. Could this be him? It does put him nearer to Alice. Did Laura die? (no record found). I think I'll have to send for the marriage certificate.

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Re: James Henry Rendle
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 11 October 15 13:40 BST (UK) »
I think I'll have to send for the marriage certificate.

The marriage certificate is available to view on FindMyPast
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