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Re: Mary Agnes McDonnell
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 11 October 15 20:49 BST (UK) »
Did you know that Bernard is buried in Glasnevin ?

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« Reply #28 on: Sunday 11 October 15 20:50 BST (UK) »
He was buried there in 1899 aged 50.

Last address 16 Asylum Yard.

Match to his family on the 1901 Census.

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« Reply #29 on: Sunday 11 October 15 21:44 BST (UK) »
No I did not know he was buried in Glasnevin, my uncle told me that Bernard's oldest son Michael was buried there, that so fantastic and we did not no when Bernard died, you're unbelievable, I have his wedding cert and all his children's baptism records but after the family left Navan I didn't know what happened to Bernard, and now I do, as I live in London and can't visit Glasnevin I will look on their website tomorrow after work.
My head is spinning, I have seen a picture kid Asylum Yard, horrendous conditions, he died young, I wonder what of.
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« Reply #30 on: Monday 12 October 15 12:21 BST (UK) »
Hi There

Hope you guys are feeling better today after the shock of yesterday.

The one thing I will say is 'Please try not to judge'.

The written word often looks so much worse than the fact.

Dublin was such a hard place to live in at the time.

Unemployment was rife, disease and death was rampant in the tenements, 1913 saw The Lockout, 1916 The Easter Rising.

Christopher & Jane lived through all this.

So, I just wanted to say, 'We weren't there, We don't know what happened this young couple'.

Hope that helps !

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« Reply #31 on: Monday 12 October 15 12:31 BST (UK) »
The Glasnevin site is great.

If you choose the standard, plus image option, then you will be able to see the entry in the burial records which should give his cause of death and who buried him.

As there is no extended option then it appears that it was a paupers grave.

Again, please don't get upset.

This was so common for the time.

Very few in Dublin had the luxury of a private grave or a headstone.

At least you now know his final resting place.

BTW My name is McDonnell too ~ So I LOVE being able to help a fellow Macker  ;D

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« Reply #32 on: Monday 12 October 15 18:56 BST (UK) »
Hello Tara,
So glad I'm in the capable hands of a fellow McDonnell.

Yes Christopher and Jane must have had a hard time of it, I'm pretty sure that's why he came over to London for work and a better life.
I haven't heard of ' Thr Lockout' I will read up on that.
I really need to find out when Chris came over, are there any passenger lists to England? And I need to find out if/when Jane died before 1919 because that's when he married my nan or heaven forbid he is a bigamist !!

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« Reply #33 on: Monday 12 October 15 19:05 BST (UK) »
There will be no passenger records.

Ireland was part of the UK at the time, so it was just classed as travelling from one part of the UK to the other and hence no records.

I'm sorry but I've tried everything and can't find a death or burial for Jane.

I have Bigamy on my tree.

Granted mine was in 1862 so it's easier to laugh it off.

More pause for thought when it's your Grandad.

Again, this isn't set in stone for him yet.

The Lockout

This might help.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Lock-out

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« Reply #34 on: Monday 12 October 15 19:08 BST (UK) »
It happened, even in relative recent times, that men went to the UK or the US to look for work, with the best of intentions of, when getting on their feet, sending for their wife and children.

Many were just never heard of again.

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« Reply #35 on: Monday 12 October 15 19:23 BST (UK) »
Tara,
Oh that's a shame, was hoping there'd be some sort of list.

Going back to Christopher's prison record in 1914 when he an others assaulted a man, would this of been in the news papers.