look up birth record Harry Clayton Green

[Willow 4873]

either that or whoever complied the census record lost part of the sheet for that household

Willow x

[LizzieL]

In the 1881 census look for James Moyes b 1845 Canterbury living Ramsgate Kent think James and Eleanor may be visiting there

RG11/988/28/9

Willow x

That looks promising, Eleanor born West  Riding Yorkshire (fits with Cantley) abt 1846, James born Hanover Square abt 1844.
Neither of the Moyes are born anywhere either James or Eleanor, so I doubt they are related. I wonder why they're there.

[Willow 4873]

Annoying that it puts them both down as 'no occupation'

Why they are there comes under the same conundrum as why was my GGGrandfather listed in the 1881 census in Liverpool as the brother in law of someone who wasn't his sister! (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=726406.0 if you have any ideas  )

Willow x

[LizzieL]

Assuming it is them, I think I have James with his parents in 1851, James jnr b St George hanover square abt 1843, father James licensed victualler. Family in Islington, pub named Mail Coach 124, Upper street, Islington


Piece: 1499, Folio: 115  Page: 16

[LizzieL]

maybe another coincidence but..

In 1871 at the Rising Sun, Surrey lane Battersea
James Green 28 Innkeeper b London
Charlotte Green 29 b London
James J Green 1 b Bermondsey
Frank W Green under 2 months b Holloway

James John Green born 8 July 1869, bapt 15 Aug 1869 Christ Church, Bermondsey, parents James and Charlotte occ publican address Railway tavern St James Road.

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In 1881, the two sons are at a school in hemel hempstead

Piece:1443, Folio: 15, Page: 24

haven't found the parents yet to eliminate them or not.

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This looks like it is James's first family.
I have found marriage record for James Green and Charlotte Redding - paish church, Islington.
On 13 Nov 1864, James is of full age, bachelor, licensed victualler - address 22 barnsbury Grove, father James licensed victualler. Charlotte of full age, spinster, address 6 Bowmans Place, Holloway, her father John Redding cheesemonger. Witnesses John Redding and Eliza Green.

[LizzieL]

Frank William's baptism May 3rd 1871 at St Mary Battersea, born 9 Feb, father Licenced victualler, address Bridge Road, Battersea. Either they had moved since the census or the pub was actually on the corner as Bridge road intersects Surrey lane.

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Google street view shows a boarded up Prince of Wales on the intersection - and it was once called the Rising Sun!

http://www.wandsworthguardian.co.uk/news/11019075.Century_old_Battersea_pub_Prince_of_Wales_shuts_to_become_Tesco/

[Willow 4873]

Frank William Green aged 20 Holloway Middlesex is a servant in Northampton in 1891

RG12/1201/86/5

Willow x

[LizzieL]

it looks like he's a draper's assistant n a house with lots of other draper's assistants and apprentices. Wonder where they all worked. I know Northampton is famous for shoe manufacture but don't know why they would need so many drapers there


can't find a death for Charlotte between 1871 and James's marriage to Eleanor

[DixieFamily]

THANK YOU to you all for your research and information and taking the time to reply to my question.
I certainly think you have given me the right information on this family. And it would have take me ages to discover all this.
kind regards to all