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Researching William John Elton short ancestries
« on: Thursday 15 October 15 11:26 BST (UK) »
New searcher here trying to find more information of William short ancestors from Victoria I have that he married Ellen McMillan McKay,  they had a son   John Holmes short who married Ottillia Angel wondering if there were other children and trying to find info on williams parents etc.
Would love some help please and thank you

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Re: Researching William John Elton short ancestries
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 15 October 15 11:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Gucci and a warm welcome to Rootschat
can you narrow it down by posting some birth years please  :)
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Researching William John Elton short ancestries
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 October 15 11:31 BST (UK) »
Hi and a warm welcome to Rootschat.

Some dates would help!
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Researching William John Elton short ancestries
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 15 October 15 11:38 BST (UK) »
John Holmes Short Married Ottillia Angel in 1901 in Victoria
John was born in 1880 Donald  Victoria
Rogers-Buckinghamshire
Pitwell- Buckinghamshire
Fisher- Middlesbrough
Robinson-Middlesbrough
Foxton - Yorkshire
Carruthers - Scotland
Gibson - Northumberland


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Re: Researching William John Elton short ancestries
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 15 October 15 11:43 BST (UK) »
Hiya Liz
just found John Holmes Short born dec qtr 1901 in Sleaford, Lincolnshire
going to look on Familysearch to see if the family were there in 1901 census in March 1901
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Oh dear - I had the wrong country -  I wonder if there may be a family connection somewhere ?
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Researching William John Elton short ancestries
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 15 October 15 11:44 BST (UK) »
John Holmes Short and his wife are listed on a electrical roll in 1939 Subdivision Hawthorn along with another 3 people who may be there children address is 2 Riversdale road John is down as  a Traveller

John Holmes Short also appears on a 1946 electrical roll Victoria Balaclava 34 Kooyong Rd he is with his wife a suspected daughter  from the last census also

John Holmes Short death 1965 Thor Victoria
Rogers-Buckinghamshire
Pitwell- Buckinghamshire
Fisher- Middlesbrough
Robinson-Middlesbrough
Foxton - Yorkshire
Carruthers - Scotland
Gibson - Northumberland

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Re: Researching William John Elton short ancestries
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 15 October 15 12:50 BST (UK) »
There seem to be several siblings :

Alice 1873 Furlough, Victoria
Isabella 1874 Stewart Mill, Vic
Ellen 1876 St Arnaud, Vic
William James Elton 1878 Avon, Vic
John Holmes Short 1880 Conald, Vic
Francis Venning 1882 Swan, Vic
Edith Mary 1884 Swan , Vic
Philip MacMillan 1885 Cogh, Vic

Parents for all given as William John Elton Short and Ellen Mcmillan Mckay

The experts on the Australia board may be able to find more information than these basic index details.
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Re: Researching William John Elton short ancestries
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 15 October 15 14:06 BST (UK) »
Again from a transcribed index , but useful just the same :

William John Elton Short 79
b 1828
d1907
Northcote, Victoria

Parents : James Short and Jane Venning

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Re: Researching William John Elton short ancestries
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 15 October 15 20:32 BST (UK) »
Trove has his death notice:

Melbourne Leader, 22 June 1907

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He is described as 'a colonist of 57 years' which would suggest he arrived in 1850.
Weedon - Hertfordshire and W. Australia
Herbertson, Congalton, Paterson - Scotland
Reed, Elmer - Hunts.
Branson - Bucks. and Birmingham
Warren, Ball, Jones - Birmingham
Fuller, Bourne, Sheepwash - Kent
Brittain - Beds. and W. Australia