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Archbishop Boulter - descendants?
« on: Monday 19 October 15 13:54 BST (UK) »
Family lore has it that the Boulter line in my ancestry is descended from Archbishop Hugh Boulter (1672-1742). While Hugh was married, supposedly he had no children (according to the office of the Archbishop of Canterbury) but there is some evidence to suggest otherwise. The London Chronicle of 1762 refers to “Rev. George Boulter, M.A. son of the late Archbishop Boulter”.

The earliest details I have (that I know for sure) of a male in the Boulter line is of Uriah Turner BOULTER (1824 - 1896). Born in Bristol, it seems he emigrated to Australia with his mother Mary (nee TURNER) in 1839. There is no sign of the father moving with them. The Boulters in Australia were quite wealthy. At her death Mary Turner BOULTER owned a great deal of property in the centre of Sydney.

Uriah’s death certificate names his father simply as “Boulter, Captain in the Navy”. If anybody could shed any light on Captain Boulter or any earlier members of the family it would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Archbishop Boulter - descendants?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 19 October 15 15:58 BST (UK) »
 ;D  Welcome to RootsChat  ;D

Just noting that the NSW indexes have Uriah's marriage incorrectly indexed as 1837 when it should be 1851.

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx

Does his mother's death cert not name her husband?

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Re: Archbishop Boulter - descendants?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 19 October 15 16:40 BST (UK) »
From the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography
on 12 November 1719, he had married Elizabeth Savage (d. 1754) at the church of St Peter-le-Poer, London; they had no children.

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Re: Archbishop Boulter - descendants?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 19 October 15 17:06 BST (UK) »
From the Bath Chronicle and Weekly Gazette - Thursday 08 February 1798
The Rev.George Boulter, vicar of Kempsey, died in his 82nd year. So he was born in 1716, which is three years before Archbishop Boulter's marriage.
The Clergy Database http://db.theclergydatabase.org.uk/jsp/search/index.jsp gives his date of death as 27/6/1798
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Re: Archbishop Boulter - descendants?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 19 October 15 17:11 BST (UK) »
Hereford Journal - Thursday 13 March 1783
Married: At Kempsey, in Worcestershire, the Rev. Henry Boulter, of Trinity College, Oxford, to Miss Boulter, only daughter of the Rev. George Boulter, of Kempsey

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Re: Archbishop Boulter - descendants?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 20 October 15 08:55 BST (UK) »
Thankyou Debra and Stan. Uriah was indeed married on the 6th May 1851 to Elizabeth Curry (another post about her to come!). The only mention of Uriah's father is on his death certificate.

As Stan pointed out George Boulter was born three years before Hugh's marriage to Elizabeth Savage. Is it possible that he might still have fathered a child? Even clergy have been known to stray!

I have no idea what church in Bristol (or nearby) Uriah's birth may have been recorded. This would seem to be the best way of getting more details of the father. It is of course quite possible that Uriah's father was not a captain. I know for sure that another ancestor was referred to as "Captain Peat R.N." when it is absolutely certain he was a convict in the First Fleet!

With luck one day I might find more on the Boulter's.

Bruce

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Re: Archbishop Boulter - descendants?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 20 October 15 12:45 BST (UK) »
Hi,

The Alumni for Oxford Uni, states that George Boulter was the son of William Boulter of Welland, Worcestershire, pleb, Balliol College matriculated 8th June 1836 aged 19 years etc. 
There are other Boulter entries:-

http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.hn48z6;view=1up;seq=155

The Clergy database:-

http://db.theclergydatabase.org.uk/jsp/search/index.jsp
shows that he was the vicar of Welland and of  Kempsey, also confirms education.

There are other Boulter entries.

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Re: Archbishop Boulter - descendants?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 27 October 15 23:32 GMT (UK) »
Not answering your question, but I think it is likely that Esther TURNER who was transported to NSW in 1817 was related to Mary BOULTER.

Esther's convict records are 'light on' for information, as most are in that early period, and I cannot see anywhere that her marital status is mentioned so I don't know if TURNER was a maiden or married surname. 

She was tried at Taunton on 30 March 1816 and received a sentence of 15 years for being in possession of forged bank notes.  She was transported on the 'Lord Melville', arriving in Feb 1817.  Her age on her indent is almost illegible but looks like either 30, 36 or 38.

Just a few months after arriving she applied to marry James SLADE (free by servitude, Duke of Portland, 1807).

She appears on the 1828 census with James SLADE, a shopkeeper, living at York Street in Sydney.  Her age then is 37, but I think that is wishful thinking.  I suspect that James was transported as James GREENSLADE and was also from Somerset.  He appears to have ended up being quite well off.  There is mention here in relation to a land sale of James GREENSLADE and Esther his wife.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12421610
(second last column headed 'Positive Sale')

In 1846, Esther thought she knew something about Mary BOULTER that was worth a bit of a gossip:

NOTICE - I hereby Caution Mrs. Esther Slade, of George-street, in the City of Sydney not to injure my character in future by reporting falsehoods, as I am determined to prosecute her hereafter according as the law directs.

MARY BOULTER.

Redfern, November 18.


http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12890135

Esther died in 1853 and her burial record states her age as 74, so born c1779 which would tally with her being about 38 when transported and 12 years older than Mary.  I think she was living with Mary at the time of her death:

Another inquest was held at the Three Tuns Tavern, on the body of Esther Slade, then lying dead in the infirmary. It appeared that the deceased was a very feeble person, about 75 years of age. She had been separated from her husband during the last three or four years, and resided with a family named Boulter, in George-street. Dr. MacEwan gave a description of the deceased, after her decease. The jury returned a verdict - Died from pre-existing disease.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/60134968
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12942655

Debra  :)

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Re: Archbishop Boulter - descendants?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 28 October 15 02:30 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to everybody for your help so far!

Debra, I knew about the caution from Mary Boulter but I wasn't aware of the family connection and that they might be sisters. Mary did have other family but I don't know if they were actually in Australia (though I think that is possible). In her will, which seems to be a bit of a legal test case she says "to Charles Turner, my nephew, £100 cash." Of Charles I know no more.