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Sarah Hodgkins death
« on: Wednesday 21 October 15 20:06 BST (UK) »
Please could someone look up this death for me. Sarah Hodgkins born Ham, England 1830. Came over as wife of Frederick Hodgkins of Ist Batt 12th Foot on the Empress Eugenie in 1854 and died in Melbourne between Nov 1854 and 1857 but can't find record of that death. Thank you so much.

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Re: Sarah Hodgkins death
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 21 October 15 20:52 BST (UK) »
I have asked Sarah to move this the open, Australia forum, it is a new request and not complete

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Re: Sarah Hodgkins death
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 22 October 15 01:32 BST (UK) »
What are her parents' names?
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Barton Westmorland and Yorkshire
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Re: Sarah Hodgkins death
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 22 October 15 03:05 BST (UK) »
Her death wasn't registered if she did die in the Colony of Victoria between 1854 and 1857.

Have you taken the year 1854 from this event or the arrival of the barque EMPRESS EUGENIE?

Birth
HODGKINS Unnamed Female
Father Frederick  Mother Sarah CHAMBERS
At Sea  1854  Reg#224M  M=Marine

The Colony of Victoria commenced civil registration in Jul 1853 and there are many missing registrations for a number of reasons, including the failure to register events or events registered with the local registrar that simply didn't reach the Victorian Registry. 

Frederick may have been with the 1st Batt 12th Foot at the Eureka Stockade at Ballarat.

Is this their marriage?

Marriages Mar 1853 
CHAMBERS    Sarah        Richmond Sry    2a/267    
HODGKINS    Frederick    Richmond Sry    2a/267

And the 1857 from this event in Tasmania

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article8784316
The Colonial Times 15 Jan 1857
MARRIED. 
On the 13th instant, by special license, at St. George's Church, Hobart Town, by the Rev Henry Phibbs ?Fry, D.D., FREDERICK HODGKINS, colour-serjeant H.M. 12th Regiment of Infantry, to MISS ANNE GIBSON, only daughter of the late Thomas Gibson, Esq. of Newtown, Montgomeryshire, North Wales.

Marriage
HODGKINS Frederick  30 years
GIBSON Anne  24 years
13 Jan 1857
At Hobart  Reg#180/1857

and a birth

HODGKINS Male - Name Not Recorded
Father Frederick  Mother Ann GIBSON
1 Nov 1857
At Hobart  Reg#928/1857

Is it possible that Sarah died in Tasmania and the event wasn't registered?

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Re: Sarah Hodgkins death
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 October 15 07:13 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much. I suspected the death wasn't registered.
All the information you have found is correct and I did base the dates between the child being born on the Empress Eugenie and the Tasmanian marriage. Now I am wondering what an unmarried 24 year old Welsh girl was doing in Tasmania!!

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Re: Sarah Hodgkins death
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 22 October 15 07:18 BST (UK) »
Should also add that I know she landed in Melbourne as she wrote home telling her parents about the north if the baby on board ship.

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Re: Sarah Hodgkins death
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 22 October 15 07:49 BST (UK) »
Margaret there were many more and far younger unmarried girls than Anne GIBSON in the Colonies :)

Have you thought about researching....

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/birth-marriage-death-sea-or-abroad/

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Re: Sarah Hodgkins death
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 22 October 15 10:19 BST (UK) »
Hi

Are there any passenger lists for the SS Empress Eugenie

http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~garter1/shipsthe12th.htm

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Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich

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Re: Sarah Hodgkins death
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 22 October 15 13:19 BST (UK) »
Have checked all sources I can find and Sarah is not listed. Checked with ancestry who said the regiment would have travelled steerage and there was no compulsion to list steerage, women or children.