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BELL, Thomas
« on: Thursday 22 October 15 09:05 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find information about Thomas Bell - birth and death if possible. His daughter Elizabeth Shuttleworth Bell married John Henry Fuller 5th March 1853 in Aston, Warwick. According to the marriage licence Thomas Bell was a manufacturer. I think Elizabeth was born in Liverpool.
Fuller
Dorsett - Somerset
Grey - Yorkshire
Kincart - Monaghan,Ireland
Lavery - Monaghan,Ireland
Bell - Lancashire

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Re: BELL, Thomas
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 22 October 15 12:21 BST (UK) »
I take it this is the family in 1861:
John H Fuller  53
 Elizabeth Fuller  34
 John H L Fuller  24
 Louisa Fuller  8
 Dora G Fuller  6
 Edith D Fuller  2
 Ellen W Fuller  3/12
Although it says Elizabeth was born L'pool I notice 2 of the daughters were born in Aston Manor B'ham.

Have you discounted these:
1841: Aston
Elizabeth Harley  50
 Mary Bill  25
 Hannah Bill  23
 Rebecca Bill  20
 Elizabeth Bill  16
 Sarah Holloway  42
&
1851: Aston Manor
George Baldwin  67
 Mary Baldwin  57 (nee Harley)
 Rebecca Bell  29 niece
 Elizabeth Bell  26 niece
 Ann Lostans  29


Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: BELL, Thomas
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 22 October 15 12:58 BST (UK) »
Baptism in Liverpool 1827 - LINK
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: BELL, Thomas
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 22 October 15 13:28 BST (UK) »
Hello
Yes she's baptised at St Peter's Liverpool
Thomas and Sussannah traveller Prussia St.
Elder sister Sarah same church 15.2.1818 from Rea St watch maker.

It seems Susanna remarried at St Peter's in 13.12.1836
Henry Smith druggist this parish and Susanna Bell spinster wit James Frodder and Sarah Midghall.

1851 census 35 Gt Homer St
Henry Smith 38 chemist and druggist Newton Heath
Sussanna 49 Blackburn
Elizabeth Bell 23 wife's daughter Liverpool
Richard Parkinson assistant 22 Bleasdale
John Lea 18 apprentice Liverpool
Mary Williams 26 servant Red Wharf Wales.

Can't spot a burial for Thomas at st Peters but will see what else I can find.

ps looks like Thomas Bell might not have existed,there's a baptism for Sussannah Bell at Blackburn
Sussannah Bell 13.12.1801 d of John and Elizabeth.
Perhaps the Shuttleworth is a clue to her father? Thomas Shuttleworth perhaps?

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Re: BELL, Thomas
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 October 15 14:19 BST (UK) »
He must have existed as there are other children to Thomas & Susanna.
Susanna married Henry Smith in 1836 where she's listed as a spinster.
So maybe she didn't marry Thomas Bell.
Oops I see you already have that.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: BELL, Thomas
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 22 October 15 23:37 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone. There are so many clever people on this website.

I have hopefully attached marriage image for JHF and ESB. I lists the residence for both of them as Aston Manor, and Elizabeth's father as Thomas.

Jim1 yes that is definitely the family. That is the family that came to Australia in 1869. I've got that end of the story covered, as well as the Fuller side, so I'm just trying to dig in to Elizabeth's story a bit more. Interesting that the name Shuttleworth is basically defined as being born in Lancashire, Derbyshire & West Yorkshire.

Fuller
Dorsett - Somerset
Grey - Yorkshire
Kincart - Monaghan,Ireland
Lavery - Monaghan,Ireland
Bell - Lancashire