Oliver Black Donegal

[taramcdsmall]

Could Oliver have been English ?

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K6MJ-CZ7

Interesting

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

Oliver and Elizabeth in Donegal had a son called James b 1880.

This would not tie in with your 1911 census nor occupation though.

Tara

[oliver black]

Thanks, I'll need to get hold of that probate record and have a closer look. I wonder if Isabella was the mother or sister. There was an Oliver Black who died in East Riding about 1919 and was born in Scotland. He was a clerk.

[taramcdsmall]

https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3Ablack~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aireland~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1870-1900~%20%2Bfather_givenname%3Aoliver~

I don't think the Ballylin Blacks are your family so I would ignore that will for now.

I am interested in the Oliver Black and Elizabeth Warden in Fahan as they and their kids seem to disappear.

They are worth following up on.

Tara




Tara

[oliver black]

Thanks Tara

I tend to agree with you. It's just that the dates are out but they had an Oliver and a James as sons so it it's quite a coincidence. Also, they went to Scotland and there is a navel and scots connections to my family too. I'll give this another shot. I have seen several trees with this family on Ancestry too.

[taramcdsmall]

Good Morning

 To me, there is something just not adding up with this one.

I get the feeling that you are trying to make YOUR James fit the profile of the boarder James in Tyrone in 1911.

Am I right or do I have this totally wrong ?

It's just that you started this with you 'think' James was born in Tyrone and that you 'think' his Dad was from Donegal.

Had you any facts at all to say that James was even born in Ireland ?

I know he ended up there in later years but that doesn't mean he was born there.

Oliver as a Christian name AND the occupation of postmaster don't appear to be adding up to anyone in Ireland.

Tara

[oliver black]

I think you're on to something here Tara. The only thing I'm sure of is that my dad told me his father came from Tyrone but of course he may not have been born there. I have evidence that he had links with the church in Douglasbridge as that is where he had his daughter baptised. I have the record.  Why come back from Gloucester to do that if there were no family ties? The poem he wrote to Maggie Black by the way was signed as 'Jim of Gloucester'.    He was living there at the time. No records of a James Stephen Black with father Oliver Black anywhere. James Stephen worked as a travelling sales man and spent a lot of time in what we then called 'the free state' back then.   

[taramcdsmall]

There most certainly could be family ties to Tyrone BUT they could be Maternal ties.

Again, do you have a death cert for James ?

Tara