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Esther Helps
« on: Friday 30 October 15 09:57 GMT (UK) »
Searching for family and maiden name of Esther (Hester) Helps. Can't find marriage details. Can anyone help please?

Esther: b. abt 1817, Bath
Spouse: Robert Helps, b. abt 1818, Bath

1851 Res: Bristol St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire.
Class: HO107; Piece: 1954; Folio: 78; Page: 3.

1861 Res:Bristol St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire. (Esther - Fish Hawker)
Class: RG 9; Piece: 1733; Folio: 71; Page: 8.

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Re: Esther Helps
« Reply #1 on: Friday 30 October 15 10:37 GMT (UK) »
Could this be the birth certificate of their youngest daughter showing on the 1861
Birth June qtr 1853 
Harriet Helps
Clifton    6a   110

That would show mothers maiden name

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Re: Esther Helps
« Reply #2 on: Friday 30 October 15 10:50 GMT (UK) »
Rosie, do you mean for me to get hold of Harriett's birth cert?

There were also two older children: Esther b. 1847 & Robert b. 1850.

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Re: Esther Helps
« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 October 15 10:56 GMT (UK) »
I was suggesting that it may be Harriet daughter of Robert & Esther.  The birth certificate is likely to be the only source of Esthers maiden name.  I could not see a birth registration for the other two children in Bath reg district.

I wonder if Robert & Esther did not marry until later  :-\
Marriage Dec qtr 1860   
Biddle    Elizabeth       
Hayman    William       
Helps    Robert       
Watts    Esther
       
Bath    5c   1285   
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Re: Esther Helps
« Reply #4 on: Friday 30 October 15 10:59 GMT (UK) »

I wonder if Robert & Esther did not marry until later  :-\
Marriage Dec qtr 1860   
Biddle    Elizabeth       
Hayman    William       
Helps    Robert       
Watts    Esther
       
Bath    5c   1285

Bath BMD confirms that the marriage was between a Robert & Esther

HELPS   Robert   
WATTS   Ester   
Bath, St Swithin's Walcot (Paragon)   Bath   
C17/7/109


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Re: Esther Helps
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 October 15 11:02 GMT (UK) »
Freereg have that Bath marriage and the Roberts occupation is General Dealer  ;D
http://freereg2.freereg.org.uk/

My original link 'timed out'


Walcot - St Swithin
14 October 1860
Robert HELPS - full age -bachelor - occupation General Dealer
Abode 4 Hartley Place
Esther WATTS - full age - spinster
Abode 5 Hartley Place
Groom's father William HELPS occupation Plasterer
Bride's father John WATTS occupation Shoemaker
Witnesses Edward Cooper & George Allwright
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Re: Esther Helps
« Reply #6 on: Friday 30 October 15 11:09 GMT (UK) »
Thanks vm Rosie. That looks most likely. The 61 census also has Robert as 'general dealer'.

I'm also trying to find Robert with his family before 1851 with no success. Can you help?

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Re: Esther Helps
« Reply #7 on: Friday 30 October 15 11:19 GMT (UK) »
Rosie. Thanks, I didn't know about the FreeReg site. Seems to give me what I was looking for. Should be really useful.

Regards, Jeff

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Re: Esther Helps
« Reply #8 on: Friday 30 October 15 11:54 GMT (UK) »
I can't see him in 1841 yet. 

Hope FreeReg is a lot of help.  Information is being loaded (by volunteers) on a regular basis so always worth checking back on it. 

I always forget about BathBMD too, probably because I don't have much research in that area but it can be handy especially when checking birth registrations as in some cases it has mothers maiden name against the record. Strangely there is a Robert Helps birth reg in 1843 with mothers maiden name Watts but it does not tie in with the one you have age 1 in 1851  ::)
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