any information on james bucknall

[weddell]

can anyone help me I have been searching for a long time trying to find info on my ggfather james bucknall b1846 approx. Staffordshire Wolverhampton all I know is that his father was called james. I have no info on who james  junior or who his mother was I just can't find out when or if the family came to live in Jarrow.james junior got married to Catherine ormiston  in south shields in1875 Catherine was b 1856 in chirnside Berwick they had four children james snr was a shinglar and james junior worked as labourer in iron works  I know james and Catherine were living at 57 walter street Jarrow by 1911 census and the following may james died age 66yrsi have tried pton studies group however they couldn't help me I also got in touch with emma Maxwell from ancestry shesearched for james bucknall junior but could only find a james with parents Samuel and sarah wright  she said that Samuel occupation was sames as my ggfather james they came and lived in hebburn I find it very hard because james snr didn't have another name which might have helped me . I do know that james junior had a son b1876 he was named Samuel james I fear since ancestry can't help me then I don't where to go next  please can someone help me thaks anne weddell :-

[ThrelfallYorky]

The only one I can find is an 1861 James b 1847, with father James & Mum Margaret, but in Shropshire, and a mining family....
There's one born in about the right place for you, at Darleston Staffs, with James and Ann for parents, but in 1848....

[rolnora]

Hi Anne,
Can I ask if you have the marriage certificate for James and Catherine ?

I can't see anything other than the records that ThrellfalYorky posted but looking at the 1861 census for James with father Samuel does [as the person at Ancestry said] fit quite well.

[weddell]

thank you everyone for trying to help me find info about my greatgrandfather james bucknall.i do have the marriage certificate for james and Catherine  and it states his father is named james he was a shingler Catherine father was Andrew ormiston he worked as a caulker .ancestry even told get in touch with the registrar office at south shields and ask them to check if james snr had another name or if it had been written down wrong they did check and what was on the marriage certificate that I brought was right. I will have to keep trying thank you 

[bevj]

Was James's first son called Samuel?
Do you have them in 1881?  FamilySearch has an entry for James and Catherine Bucknall with son Samuel J. Bucknall aged 5.
They are boarders with George and Mary Brown. (39 and 33 yrs old)
James b. 1846 Wolverhampton.
George and Mary Brown and Catherine Bucknall all born in Scotland.
Page Number    11
Registration Number    RG11
Piece/Folio    5024/34

Bev

[weddell]

thank you for information about james first son Samuel james b1876  I have this info I know that Samuel james died 1882 age 6 he had two sisters janetb1881 mary ellen (mami)b1892 my grandfather Andrew Alfred b1888. the real problem is that I have no information about who james snr I don'nt know anything about his family I am not sure when or if they came to live in jarrow or if it was just james junior who came to work and live in jarrow   I rang Staffordshire register office to see if they could find james junior birth but because I didn't know his mother name they couldn't search its like searching for needle in haystack.anything   I have information about what happened to  james  after he married in south shields  and had a family  but nothing about before I have my family tree on  both ancestry and family search  site but this hasn't helped me thanks annew

[bevj]

The Wolverhampton Index doesn't show any James Bucknall/Bucknell baptised in Wolverhampton.
http://www.wolverhamptonhistory.org.uk/resources/indexes

Have you investigated the James Bucknall registered in Wolverhampton in the 4th quarter of 1844 (Vol 17 p341)?

Bev

[rolnora]

Searching Freebmd only shows two births in Woverhampton for a James Bucknall/Bucknell
The one that Bevj has given you and another one in the March qtr of 1849  vol 17 pg 126

It is possible that his birth wasn't registered, or could it be that he was born before his parents marriage in which case his birth would be registered in his mother's maiden name.

It's also possible that James was illegitimate and used James as his father's name on his marriage cert to save any embarrassment.
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