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Help Finding Pirhoffer family in 1891 England and Wales Census.
« on: Thursday 12 November 15 07:07 GMT (UK) »
Any help finding Pirhoffer family in 1891 England and Wales Census would be greatly appreciated.
The family comprises of
 Pino or Pius b about 1841
Martina or Martina b about 1844
Barbara M b 1873,Tyrol Austria
Joseph b 1879
Marie b 1880
Frances b 1885.
In some records the surname has been written as Parhoffer or Perhoffer. They emigrated from Belgium.
Pius Pirhoffer was jailed for 12 months in December 1891.(ref Old Bailey Records) He was in workhouse with Martina in London in 1893 and his  death was registered in South Stoneham, Hampshire in 1902.
Hoping someone can help.
Wendy
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Re: Help Finding Pirhoffer family in 1891 England and Wales Census.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 12 November 15 07:29 GMT (UK) »
Pino    Pirkhoffer     50 Excavator    Austria    
Martina Pirkhoffer 47 Austria    
Barbara M    Pirkhoffer 18 Austria    
Joseph Pirkhoffer 12 Paris France    
Marie Pirkhoffer 11  Paris France    
Frank J Pirkhoffer 6 Belgium

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Re: Help Finding Pirhoffer family in 1891 England and Wales Census.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 12 November 15 07:58 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Kay99 much appreciated.
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Re: Help Finding Pirhoffer family in 1891 England and Wales Census.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 12 November 15 08:43 GMT (UK) »
Just to put you wise - on immigration records there was also a Ferdinand Pirhoffer
records state
Pius
Ferdinand
Barbe
Joseph
Marie Louise
Francois Joseph
so -presumably Ferdinand is the oldest child and is estranged from his parents in 1891 census?
also - why isn't Martina on that list ?..I wonder if she followed on alone at a later stage .
https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3Apirhoffer~%20%2Bmarriage_place%3Abelgium~%20%2Bmarriage_year%3A1860-1875~%20%2Bspouse_givenname%3Amartina~%20%2Brecord_country%3ABelgium
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford


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Re: Help Finding Pirhoffer family in 1891 England and Wales Census.
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 12 November 15 08:54 GMT (UK) »
How sad
Ferdinand Pirhoffer born 1871 - died in Salford in 1887 - only 16 ..... sep qtr on freebmd
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Help Finding Pirhoffer family in 1891 England and Wales Census.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 12 November 15 13:44 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Garstonite-I had just found that too. I also think that there were two Franz Joseph Pirhoffers,the first b 1883 and dying in 1884 Croyden.The second being born 1885 and appearing on Census.
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