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Re: A pedantic point, or is it semantics?
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 19 November 15 11:37 GMT (UK) »
Malky,  and from Macquarie Dictionary   :)  :)  :)

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"Usage: Many compounds start out linked by a hyphen but as the compound form becomes more established there is a tendency for the hyphen to disappear. ...............   In current Australian writing there is considerable variation in the occurrence of the hyphen and majority usage does not reflect clear and consistent principles."

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Re: A pedantic point, or is it semantics?
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 19 November 15 12:25 GMT (UK) »
Then your use would be in order, due to your card carrying status.

Shouldn't that be card-carrying, officer? :P

Shouldn't that be 'owing to' ???
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Re: A pedantic point, or is it semantics?
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 19 November 15 19:15 GMT (UK) »
Then your use would be in order, due to your card carrying status.

Shouldn't that be card-carrying, officer? :P

Shouldn't that be 'owing to' ???

Due to must be preceded by a participle of the verb to be (and so cannot begin a sentence). Owing to is an adjective modifier, so, owing to the heat, the rain, the high tide.....

That is what I was taught at school but that was an impossibly long time ago. Usage may have blurred the distinction as it seems to have done to "fewer" and "less" - a hackle-raiser for me but a matter of indifference to most.
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Re: A pedantic point, or is it semantics?
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 19 November 15 19:48 GMT (UK) »
Then your use would be in order, due to your card carrying status.

Shouldn't that be card-carrying, officer? :P

Shouldn't that be 'owing to' ???

Due to must be preceded by a participle of the verb to be (and so cannot begin a sentence). Owing to is an adjective modifier, so, owing to the heat, the rain, the high tide.....

That is what I was taught at school but that was an impossibly long time ago. Usage may have blurred the distinction as it seems to have done to "fewer" and "less" - a hackle-raiser for me but a matter of indifference to most.

Is there a pun intended, Hackstaple?
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Re: A pedantic point, or is it semantics?
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 19 November 15 20:52 GMT (UK) »
Then your use would be in order, due to your card carrying status.

Shouldn't that be card-carrying, officer? :P

Shouldn't that be 'owing to' ???

Due to must be preceded by a participle of the verb to be (and so cannot begin a sentence). Owing to is an adjective modifier, so, owing to the heat, the rain, the high tide.....

That is what I was taught at school but that was an impossibly long time ago. Usage may have blurred the distinction as it seems to have done to "fewer" and "less" - a hackle-raiser for me but a matter of indifference to most.

Is there a pun intended, Hackstaple?

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Re: A pedantic point, or is it semantics?
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 19 November 15 21:37 GMT (UK) »
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Re: A pedantic point, or is it semantics?
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 19 November 15 22:53 GMT (UK) »
Due to must be preceded by a participle of the verb to be (and so cannot begin a sentence). ...... but a matter of indifference to most.

Even betterer well writ    :)  :P  :P  ::)  ::)



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Re: A pedantic point, or is it semantics?
« Reply #35 on: Friday 20 November 15 08:24 GMT (UK) »
I can't take any more of this pun-ishment. Hyphen intended, before anyone asks.  ::)
I am Australian, from all the lands I come (my ancestors, at least!)

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