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Our Lady And St Columba, Wallsend. Burial place?
« on: Tuesday 24 November 15 13:16 GMT (UK) »
A family search burial record gives the burial place as Our Lady And St Columba, Wallsend, Northumberland, England. The date of the burial was dated 1 March 1895.

The current Our Lady And St Columba Catholic Church is on Carville Road, Wallsend. It doesn't appear to have it's own graveyard. The present church was built in 1957 replacing the buildings of 1885 and 1904. I don't know if the Church was rebuilt on the same site or if it was moved.

Where would this person have been buried please?
I don't know the area.

Thank you.
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Re: Our Lady And St Columba, Wallsend. Burial place?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 24 November 15 14:06 GMT (UK) »
There is a report in the Shields Daily Gazette - Monday 18 February 1884 of the burial of the late Rev. Father Nolan, of St. Cuthbert's Catholic Church, North Shields at Preston Cemetery. So Catholics were buried there

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Re: Our Lady And St Columba, Wallsend. Burial place?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 24 November 15 14:19 GMT (UK) »
There are a number of posts about the church at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/NORTHUMBRIA/2006-04/1144966047
Apparently it was not a proper church until 1904, and was originaly called just "St Columba's" church .

Stan
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Re: Our Lady And St Columba, Wallsend. Burial place?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 24 November 15 16:34 GMT (UK) »
The record you are seeing in Family Search is likely to be from the Registers of Death (rather than burial). The requiem mass will have been at the church followed by burial at whichever cemetery was chosen.

Tyne and Wear Archives hold the registers (ref:C.WA9/8) the actual record may, or may not!, show where the burial took place.

Do you have the name  from the record? You may be lucky and find a death notice in a local newspaper. I'd be happy to look for you, given the details, but I am limited to what is online rather than somewhere local.

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Re: Our Lady And St Columba, Wallsend. Burial place?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 24 November 15 16:59 GMT (UK) »
St. Columba's becomes a separate Parish in 1885, with Mass being said in the school chapel. In  1904 work began on the "Tin Chapel" or "Iron Church", so called because it was built using temporary materials, it was opened May 29, 1904. http://www.ourladyandstcolumbawallsend.org.uk/about/history/
 The registers from that time will be held by the present church of "Our Lady And St Columba", which is how they are indexed by FamilySearch.

Stan
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Re: Our Lady And St Columba, Wallsend. Burial place?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 24 November 15 17:06 GMT (UK) »
You can see an 1896 map at https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/429830/566203/13/101251 (zoom out) which shows the school, where the Chapel was.

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Re: Our Lady And St Columba, Wallsend. Burial place?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 24 November 15 17:48 GMT (UK) »
So much information.  :)

Thank you so much Stan.

Boo, what a kind offer. Thank you. The name is Margaret KIRVEN. Maiden name OWENS. The burial/death record from the IGI is Margarita KIRVEN. I've seen it spelt many different ways including Kerivan, Kirvin, Kirvan, Kivern.
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Re: Our Lady And St Columba, Wallsend. Burial place?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 24 November 15 18:40 GMT (UK) »
I tried the online newspapers and no luck.

 I also checked the Newcastle Evening Chronicle deaths index to see if there may have been a notice in there  http://www.genuki.bpears.org.uk/NBL/DeathNotices/deaths_KIRV.html It has a few Kirvans but not the lady you are looking for.

Was worth a shot anyway, sorry it didn't pay off.

Boo