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Re: Twomey Dwyer Family Tree
« Reply #45 on: Monday 30 November 15 21:35 GMT (UK) »
Mmmm...
45 at marriage giving birthdate of 1877.

The child Sarah and Maurice had in 1878 at Maffra was named Timothy TWOMEY.
She was then 45.

I think it unlikely there was another birth to her the following or previous year.

I have had a quick scan around for records of this Timothy, but cannot place a Timothy in the same areas or make a connection with the others we know of the family. Others may do better ;D

So we may never know whether Edward and Timothy TWOMEY were one in the same.

Whether there was  no registration.. 

Whether the registration never made it to the record-keepers.

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Re: Twomey Dwyer Family Tree
« Reply #46 on: Monday 30 November 15 22:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Great news about the marriage certificate but as for Edward's age don't necessarily believe that he was 45.  I have a number of marriage certificates were older men have adjusted their age backwards when they were married. 

Even though we haven't at this point in time found his birth registration in reality Edward was probably older than 45.

Gerry 

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Re: Twomey Dwyer Family Tree
« Reply #47 on: Monday 30 November 15 22:24 GMT (UK) »
Yes, Gerry.
I agree  ;D (especially from his mother's age being 19 in 1852)

He very likely wanted to move closer in age to the new wife and no proof of age was required.

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Re: Twomey Dwyer Family Tree
« Reply #48 on: Monday 30 November 15 23:15 GMT (UK) »
In the Obituary posted for Edward TWOMEY in 1920 it says he has 2 brothers John and Timothy TWOMEY. So Edward and Timothy not the same person.
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Re: Twomey Dwyer Family Tree
« Reply #49 on: Tuesday 01 December 15 04:20 GMT (UK) »
In the Obituary posted for Edward TWOMEY in 1920 it says he has 2 brothers John and Timothy TWOMEY. So Edward and Timothy not the same person.
Cheers Leonie


Funeral Notice for Edward TWOMEY18 Aug 1929 placed by his brothers Maurice, John and Thomas TWOMEY
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/97690691

1920 Obituary for another Edward TWOMEY who died in 1920 aged 54
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/151520381
 
November 1929 court action involving Edward TWOMEY about a property at Murtoa.  Offence took place in 1928
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/180091035

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The Edward TWOMEY of interest in bevcal's query died in 1929.

I have mentioned the obituary of another Edward TWOMEY merely to eliminate that man from our search.  Yes, that man who died in 1920, had a brother called Timothy.

Sue
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Re: Twomey Dwyer Family Tree
« Reply #50 on: Tuesday 01 December 15 06:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi, A bit more information on Edward and Edith Twomey.

Many of the earlier Queensland State Electoral Rolls held at the Queensland State Archives were annotated by Electoral Officers for things such as, not voting, a death, a change of name, a change of electorate etc and with respect to Edward and Edith Twomey we find a few interesting facts.

The 1923 Qld State Electoral Roll.
The Electoral District of Windsor.
Edward Twomey, Kennedy St, Windsor.
Edith Mantle, Kennedy St, Windsor. With Mantle crossed out and annotated Twomey.

Edward qualified to be on that roll on 21st Nov 1922 and Edith Mantle on 5th Jan 1923.

1925 Qld State Electoral Roll
The Electoral District of Windsor.
Edward Twomey, Kennedy St, Windsor, timber worker.
Edith Twomey, Kennedy St, Windsor, house wife.

1926 Qld State Electoral Roll
The Electoral District of Windsor.
Edith Twomey, Kennedy St, Windsor, house wife. Annotated "Cairns"
Edward Twomey, Kennedy St, Windsor, timber worker.  ditto

This indicates a move to the Cairns Electorate.

1927 Qld State Electoral Roll
The Electoral District of Cairns
Edward Twomey, Minnie St, Cairns, Sawyer. Qualified to be on the roll, 6th April 1926.
Edith Twomey, Minnie St, Cairns, house wife, qualified to be on the roll, 26th March, 1926.

This would indicate a move to Cairns in late 1925 or early 1926, depends what the qualifying period was.

1928 ditto 1927.

1929 Qld State Electoral Roll
The Electoral District of Cairns
Edward Twomey, Minnie St, Cairns, Sawyer. Annotated "Dead"
Edith Twomey, Minnie St, Cairns, house wife.
The 'Dead" annotation indicates that Edward had died but more interestingly was written in very feint hand writing what appeared to be "Diamantina (Sect 19)".  Does this mean Section 19 of the Electoral Act, probably and "Diamantina" does this refer to where he may have died, if so its a long way from Cairns.  Maybe a death certificate is needed!

1930 Qld State Electoral Roll
The Electoral District of Cairns
Edith Twomey, Minnie St, Cairns, house wife.  Annotated "Obj" which refers to an objection, in other words did not vote which means that Edith had moved out of Cairns to somewhere, she was not on the 1931 Cairns Roll.

Cairns Post, Thursday 6th June 1929, page 4.
MAGiSTRATES COURT,
M. V. Michilios v. Edith Twomey, rent due, L15 with 15/- costs.

Gerry

 

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Re: Twomey Dwyer Family Tree
« Reply #51 on: Tuesday 01 December 15 09:36 GMT (UK) »
In the Obituary posted for Edward TWOMEY in 1920 it says he has 2 brothers John and Timothy TWOMEY. So Edward and Timothy not the same person.
Cheers Leonie


Funeral Notice for Edward TWOMEY18 Aug 1929 placed by his brothers Maurice, John and Thomas TWOMEY
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/97690691

1920 Obituary for another Edward TWOMEY who died in 1920 aged 54
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/151520381
 
November 1929 court action involving Edward TWOMEY about a property at Murtoa.  Offence took place in 1928
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/180091035

Sue

Hi Sue,
There was a son Timothy. Of  course you knew that and you are wondering if this is indeed Edward... 
Victorian BMD:
TWOMEY   Given names Timothy   Event Birth    Father's name / Spouse's family name Maurice Mother's maiden name / Spouse's given name Sarah (Bennett)   Reg. year1878   Reg. no17213
There were many " change of life babies in those days" --haphazard  birth control in those days :) :) then... :) :)

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The Edward TWOMEY of interest in bevcal's query died in 1929.

I have mentioned the obituary of another Edward TWOMEY merely to eliminate that man from our search.  Yes, that man who died in 1920, had a brother called Timothy.

Sue

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Re: Twomey Dwyer Family Tree
« Reply #52 on: Tuesday 01 December 15 10:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi bevcal,
I think Rootschat will work better for you if you ignore the button marked "quote"

Just use "reply" and type away in the window that opens ;D

Sue

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Re: Twomey Dwyer Family Tree
« Reply #53 on: Tuesday 01 December 15 11:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi, A bit more information on Edward and Edith Twomey.

Many of the earlier Queensland State Electoral Rolls held at the Queensland State Archives were annotated by Electoral Officers for things such as, not voting, a death, a change of name, a change of electorate etc and with respect to Edward and Edith Twomey we find a few interesting facts.

The 1923 Qld State Electoral Roll.
The Electoral District of Windsor.
Edward Twomey, Kennedy St, Windsor.
Edith Mantle, Kennedy St, Windsor. With Mantle crossed out and annotated Twomey.

Edward qualified to be on that roll on 21st Nov 1922 and Edith Mantle on 5th Jan 1923.

1925 Qld State Electoral Roll
The Electoral District of Windsor.
Edward Twomey, Kennedy St, Windsor, timber worker.
Edith Twomey, Kennedy St, Windsor, house wife.

1926 Qld State Electoral Roll
The Electoral District of Windsor.
Edith Twomey, Kennedy St, Windsor, house wife. Annotated "Cairns"
Edward Twomey, Kennedy St, Windsor, timber worker.  ditto

This indicates a move to the Cairns Electorate.

1927 Qld State Electoral Roll
The Electoral District of Cairns
Edward Twomey, Minnie St, Cairns, Sawyer. Qualified to be on the roll, 6th April 1926.
Edith Twomey, Minnie St, Cairns, house wife, qualified to be on the roll, 26th March, 1926.

This would indicate a move to Cairns in late 1925 or early 1926, depends what the qualifying period was.

1928 ditto 1927.

1929 Qld State Electoral Roll
The Electoral District of Cairns
Edward Twomey, Minnie St, Cairns, Sawyer. Annotated "Dead"
Edith Twomey, Minnie St, Cairns, house wife.
The 'Dead" annotation indicates that Edward had died but more interestingly was written in very feint hand writing what appeared to be "Diamantina (Sect 19)".  Does this mean Section 19 of the Electoral Act, probably and "Diamantina" does this refer to where he may have died, if so its a long way from Cairns.  Maybe a death certificate is needed!

1930 Qld State Electoral Roll
The Electoral District of Cairns
Edith Twomey, Minnie St, Cairns, house wife.  Annotated "Obj" which refers to an objection, in other words did not vote which means that Edith had moved out of Cairns to somewhere, she was not on the 1931 Cairns Roll.

Cairns Post, Thursday 6th June 1929, page 4.
MAGiSTRATES COURT,
M. V. Michilios v. Edith Twomey, rent due, L15 with 15/- costs.

Gerry
Hi Gerry,
Yes this family were in Cairns. Their second son Leonard Henry Twomey was born in Cairns (as per WW2 records) so they did move there in 19 24/ 25  but Edward and Edith both died in Brisbane and are buried there. Edith in Toowong and Edward at Balmoral along with Maurice James and his son Maurice James.   Edward and George's first born Edward Patrick George was either stillborn or died in his first year of life.  He is in an unmarked grave at South Brisbane General Part A QLD - Portion 2F - Inscription Id: 8290152 - Buried next to Grandmother Sarah
Bev
PS:  Unless he died in Cairns and they transported his body back to Brisbane....