Thomas Emrys JONES d.o.b. 27/11/1868 Flintshire or Hanley Staffs?

[fairlane]

Staffordshire BMD have a birth for John Jones mmn Williams in 1867 at Hanley HAN/034/014 and for a Thomas Jones mmn Williams in 1869 in Hanley HAN/034/083. As you have Thomas Emrys's dob it may be worth asking if this Thomas has the same dob - worth a try.

[Maggieham1959]

Hello, Joseph Holland Jones was my maternal grand father and lived at  54seventh Street until he died. He was baptised in the marnle church at Bodelwyddan near rhyl, denbighshire. Don't know much about his mum or dad, but he did speak Welsh.

[brynjon]

That's the one. He was my great uncle on my paternal side. Would be great to compare notes. Are you still up in the Land of the Prince Bishops?

Cheers - Bryn

[Maggieham1959]

No, strangely I moved to Rhyl when I was 16with absolutely no knowledge od my grand father's past and we actually lived in Bodelwyddan for a time. Very strange when we found out, almost pure destined. I noticed there is a Margaret hannah in your post and that was my grand mother's name, too. Yes, would be good to compare notes. I think my sister has most of the paperwork from that side of the family. Good to hear from you! Kind regards, Margaret

[brynjon]

Hi cousin Margaret -  my dad and uncle have for tears been trying to work out where Thomas Emrys family came from. One problem being the census showed his birth as Hanley so they had concentrated their efforts there. My email address is brynjon at gmail dot com

Would be great to share information we have with you. Dad is 83 and he will be thrilled to learn about Joseph Holland and the rest of the Family. Best regards Bryn

[despair]

The following seems worth considering:-
NorthWalesBMD confirms a John Edward Jones born Whitford 1867
(there is no equivalent for a Thomas in 1868/9)
The GRO indices have a John Edward Jones Holywell district 1867 mmn Williams
Staffordshire BMD have a Thomas Jones registered Hanley 1869  mmn Williams
(there may be a typo in fairlane's ref,I think it should be HAN/037/083)
There is a possible marriage of Thomas Jones to Ellen Williams,Northop,1865
(perhaps Elizabeth was an error?)

Regards
Roger

[brynjon]

Hi Roger - thanks for your response. We are now very certain Thomas Emrys was born in Llanasa 27/11/1868.
He and his brothers (miners) moved to Cumbria in the late 1800s and then again to Seaham, Co. Durham in the early 1900s.

We checked with Staffs record office and the Thomas born there is not our Thomas. Further enquiries found us at Holywell parish and Whitford, where we obtained a birth certificate - his parents being Thomas Jones b12/5/1839 in Whitford and Elizabeth Holland b23/5/1839 Whitford which tie in very nicely with the Joseph Holland Jones (Thomas Emrys' brother).

Many thanks and best regards - Bryn


Best regards - Bryn