Jane Bennett of Lancashire

[AntonyMMM]

I am trying to sort out the correct Jane Bennet for my OH’s tree.

The information I have, from tracing backwards from known facts, is that Jane Bennett married Robert Waterhouse 12 June 1851. The marriage took place at Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire. In 1855 their first child, Sarah Ann was born in Bury, Lancashire, but baptized at the cathedral.

The information from the 1861, 1871, 1881 and 1891 census’s give her birth about 1832/3. They all gave her place of birth as Manchester.

From the 1841 & 1851 census, with the fathers name of John, as on the marriage certificate, and the mothers name recorded as Jane, used to hopefully ensure the correct Jane, her birth is recorded as Salford for 1851, and Lancashire in 1841, with the parish being Salford.

I have found a baptism for a Jane Bennett from the England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 at Freckleton, Lancashire. This is where I am in a quandary, as Freckleton  is nowhere near Salford or Manchester. This has the father as John, but the mother as Ann.

Can anyone please advise where I have gone wrong in locating Janes birth/baptism

A Chesters

You haven't gone wrong as such - you just need to remember that  the record set "England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975" is by no means a complete database and that many parishes, places and years are not included.

You need to widen your search to look at original parish records wherever possible.

[rosie99]

Also, be aware that in the '51 census her father is described as a 'journeyman' fustian cutter therefore he travelled around so her baptism could be anywhere.

definition of journeyman can be found on stanmapstones post here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=682910.msg5273498#msg5273498

[california dreamin]

Also, be aware that in the '51 census her father is described as a 'journeyman' fustian cutter therefore he travelled around so her baptism could be anywhere.

definition of journeyman can be found on stanmapstones post here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=682910.msg5273498#msg5273498

Hi rosie
Sorry to disagree (and with Stan!) however I quote from Anthony Adolph "Journeymen were those who practised a trade but had either never been apprenticed or had failed to produce a satisfactory masterpiece.  They could only work as day labourers, hence their name, from the French for 'day', jour.'  I still stand by my statement as John was a day labourer he could have travelled anywhere.

I think really we need a chesters to confirm that he/she is happy with the family she identified in Salford as heywood has identified another Bennet family.

[AntonyMMM]

A "Journeyman" could have travelled for work ,as could anyone else.

The point is that the title journeyman has no connection to travelling by meaning or derivation.

[ShaunJ]

I'm not convinced that the journeyman Fustian Cutter is the right family. His daughter Jane is only 14 on the 1851 census.

The Jane Bennett that the OP is interested in was 19 on marriage in June 1851 and her father was a weaver.

There are some Bennetts in Back Lloyd Street in the 1851 census: James Bennett, a weaver aged 20, and Sarah Bennett aged 15, both unmarried, are in lodgings at number 1.

[heywood]

That looks promising Shaun.

CD, I haven't identified another family, I am discounting the Freckleton and Salford families though.

[california dreamin]

Hi heywood

Sorry I thought you had identified a Preston family that you thought a good match.

AnthonyMM: I wont split hairs however just so you understand a fustian cutter was rather specialised. He would be far more likely to travel about than say the average cotton mill worker.

[ShaunJ]

There are some Bennetts in Back Lloyd Street in the 1851 census: James Bennett, a weaver aged 20, and Sarah Bennett aged 15, both unmarried, are in lodgings at number 1.

Just wondering if that "James" Bennett is a mistranscription of "Jane".

The address on the 1851 marriage register does look like 1 Bk Lloyd Street. The "1" is written outside the column but that is not an uncommon feature in this particular register.

[ShaunJ]

1841, Waddington Court, Chorlton-on-Medlock:

John Bennett 40 Weaver   
Mary   37   
David 17 Weaver
Martin 13 Weaver
Mary    12 Weaver
Jonathan 9   Weaver
Jane   8   
Sarah 5   
Ann   4 months   

The only difficulty is that the entire family apart from Ann is marked as being born in Ireland.