thanks milliepede I had looked at that record, and the birth place was Iregele Monmouth, There is no such place!!, so I guess it had been transcribed wrong. witnesses were S. Herbert found him, nephew of Hilda I think, who`s father is the brother of Hilda`s father who went to live in Alfreton, when he was 18yrs old . and an Ada Severn, must have been a friend she is on the 1911 census, also living in Alfreton/ so I still don't know where Robert was born!!