Bowness on Solway Parish records - ORMAN, John

[clearly]

Fishmongers would fit very neatly with the firm of Orman (Fishmongers) of St Alban's Row in Carlisle around 1905. They were noted for their oysters. I believe there may be a family link to the name McGlasson of Bowness. but have no evidence of this, just a vague recollection.

[RosemaryO]

There is a Robert ORMAN who was a fishmonger at St Alban's Row, Carlisle b. 1832 Maryport, Cumberland, who my father believed was the brother of John ORMAN b. 1826 Bowness on Solway (died 1868 Ipswich), but I am finding it difficult to link them. They both have parents called James and Elizabeth, but not sure if they are same ones as the spelling changes from ORMAN, ORMOND, and ORMEROD. I have guessed at James ORMAN b. 1801 London (baptised Colchester) and Elizabeth ? b. 1806 in Cumberland.
In 1841 Botchergate, Carlisle, Elizabeth, a fishmonger, is with Robert aged 9 and Isabella 15, but no mention of John who would be 14, or husband James, who may have died as I cannot find him again.
Robert's wife Jane (Tait) and sons William and James continued as fishmongers, but they died 1887, 1893 and 1894.
The puzzle broadens. Many thanks for your input, I didn't know the fishmongers were still going in 1905.

[redbank]

Baptisms listed in the records of Bowness on Solway.
Isabella  Ormerod baptised December 12th 1824
John Ormerod baptised  August 25th 1826
William Ormerod baptised November 22nd 1829

Parents James and Elizabeth Ormerod of Camp Field.
James listed as Husbandsman when Isabella is baptised.
Then when John is baptised father listed as Fisherman, for William father listed as labourer then living at Cardunock.

Also
James and Margery Ormerod of Camp Field, listed as Farmer.
Children,
Ann baptised December 29th 1822
Betty baptised June 5th 1825

Also
Thomas and Isabella Ormerod of Camp Field married September 13th 1819
Farmer then Husbandsman
Also
Children to Thomas and Isabella
James baptised June 25th 1820
Betsy 1822
John Feb 29th 1824
Ann Feb 12th 1826
Thomas Sept 30th 1827.

Also

Deaths listed as
Joseph Ormerod of CampField July 7th 1829 - an infant
William Ormerod of Camp Field January 3rd 1830 - an infant.

Searched the records 6 years each way from baptism of your request, hope this helps.
Joseph July 3rd 1829
Margaret Oct 31 1830

[redbank]

Joseph and Margaret are baptism dates.

[RosemaryO]

Thank you so much. The information is really helpful. I had found a few of the Ormerods along the way but was having difficulty working out who belonged to which parents 

[RosemaryO]

Any more information about the earlier Ormerods, especially James and Elizabeth, would be greatly received. I have no idea where they came from or where they were married.