1861 census look up please

[suzyf]

Shepherd Family
I am trying to find this family .
Lucy Ware married Mark Shepherd in Manchester in 1850. They are on 1851 census at Birch Villa Lane Chorlton with George 8 months and 3 lodgers.
In 1861 I can only find Mark age 36
By 1871 still living in Manchester and they have 3 children George 20, Elizabeth 17 and Harriett 14 all born Manchester.
Lucy born Isle of Man between 1812 to 1822.
Mark born Brockley Worcs. about 1827.
Thanks Sue.

[Milliepede]

In 1861 I can only find Mark age 36

Whereabouts is he - lodging somewhere on his own?

[Milliepede]

Is this the right family?

1861 Manchester

Mark Sheppard 34 born Worcs
Lucy 45 born Isle of Man
George 10
John 9
Elizabeth 8
Harriott 4
plus 2 visitors and a lodger

[davidft]

Not sure why you cannot find them in 1861 as they are all together in Manchester and you already have Mark

Mark Sheppard   34
Lucy Sheppard   45
George Sheppard   10
John Sheppard   9
Elizabeth Sheppard   8
Harriott Sheppard   4
Edward Partington   34
Edward Fletcher   34
Frances White   65

Class: RG 9; Piece: 2963; Folio: 75; Page: 8

[Milliepede]

Possibly Sue has found a different Mark because her one is 36 and ours is 34!

[suzard]

Shepherd can be a difficult name to find sometimes as spelling varies so much

1861 as previously posted the surname is entered as Sheppard

Here are fuller details
1861
46 Portland St Manchester
Mark Sheppard head M 34 Carver & Gilder Worcestershire
Lucy wife M 45 Isle of man
George son 10 scholar manchester
John son 9 scholar Manchester
Elizabeth daughter 8 manchester
Harriott daughter 4 Manchester
Edward Partington visitor widower 34 Engineer York
Edward Fletcher visitor U 34 worker in cotton mill Manchester
Frances White Lodger U 65 manchester
RG9 2963 75 8

Suz

[jennifer c]

1881 census 2 Samuel Street Manchester

Mark 55 Gen.Lab
Lucy 69
George 30 son Mar Plumber
Jane S 29 Di Law
Mark S 6 GS
George 3 GS
Ernest 1 GS

Jennifer

[suzard]

1881 census 2 Samuel Street Manchester

Mark 55 Gen.Lab
Lucy 69
George 30 son Mar Plumber
Jane S 29 Di Law
Mark S 6 GS
George 3 GS
Ernest 1 GS

Jennifer

think son John (although haven't convincingly found him in 1871) became a plumber (as did his brother George)
John appears on 1881 with wife Ellen

Suz

[suzard]

Children of Mark & Lucy

Baptisms
St James the Apostle Birch Manchester Lancs
George Shepherd 29 Sept 1850 parents Mark & Lucy address Rusholme father's occ Labourer
John Thomas Shepherd 28 sept 1851 -       ditto               ditto                   ditto
(John Thomas married as John Shepherd and signed as John Thomas Shepherd and then crossed through Thomas)
Elizabeth Lucy Shepherd 25 Dec 1853 church parents, address father's occ as above
Harriet Ellen Shepherd 30 Aug 1857   Church, parents, address as above Fater's occ Porter

Suz