Bateman / Northern Ireland/ Melisina Bateman 1850

[Irish Finder]

Hi,

I'm new here. I am trying to research Melisina Bateman born circa 1850, who married William Turner on 17/1/1867 in Ballinderry, Londonderry, Ireland. The marriage certificate has her father as Michal Bateman.

I don't have Melisina's date of birth, her mother or any siblings. The census 1901 has her place of birth as co Waterford (which I am assuming is in Northern Ireland)

Hopefully someone on roots chat has the same family and have more details?

[hallmark]

Can you post the link to the Census?

[gaffy]

Can you post the link to the Census?

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Swatragh/Swatragh_Town/1545700/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Swatragh/Swatragh_Town/611778/ (note the Bennet reference)

[gaffy]

The 1867 marriage took place in Tamlaght O'Crilly Upper Church of Ireland, notwithstanding that Melesina was noted as a minor, her occupation was recorded as teacher, she was living at the time in "Killygullib" (Glebe, the townland?), and her father Michael Bateman was described as a farmer. 

BTW, County Waterford is nowhere near the marriage and 1901 / 1911 census locations, it is in (today) the Republic of Ireland, not Northern Ireland, it depends where specifically in County Waterford, but you are probably talking a couple of hundred miles distance.

[gaffy]

From PRONI Will Calendars Index:

Probate of the Will of William Turner late of Swatragh, County Londonderry, Farmer, who died 3 December 1906 granted at Londonderry 10 November 1921 to Clara Jane Martin, Married Woman, the daughter. Effects £91 5s.

http://apps.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx

[gaffy]

Griffiths Valuation has 3 Waterford Bateman entries of which there are 2 references to Michael Batemans in the townlands of:

- Ballynagaulemore (Ballynagaul More), in the civil parish of Ringagonagh;
- Helvick, also in the civil parish of Ringagonagh.

Print date for that area was 1851 (on the money for Mel(l)isina's birth):

http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=nameSearch

And the 1901 census shows a family still in the Helvick area, I wonder if related:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Ringville/Helvick/1771650/

[gaffy]

BTW, just wondering Irish Finder, what relation is Mel(l)isina to you and what other family information do you have ? (ie. to avoid any nugatory effort) 

I noticed a few other posts:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=738604.msg5847841#msg5847841

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=738606.msg5847893#msg5847893

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=738607.msg5847895#msg5847895

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=738609.msg5847899#msg5847899

Are these folks connected to your family? Do we need to factor them in to our searches?

[dathai]

1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Waterford/Ringville/Helvick/663896/
cwgc
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/3043161/BATEMAN,%20MICHAEL
William Jnr
http://www.irishmariners.ie/searchdatabase.php?srch_surname=bateman&srch_forename=william&srch_identityno=&srch_yob=&submit=Search

likely marriage 1883
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/26d0617286259

[dathai]

Jane Johnston ,Swatragh died 12 April 1873 one of her executors was William Turner,Swatragh i do not know if there is any relationship between them
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014890/005014890_00540.pdf
read actual Will on P R O N I
http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/will_calendars.htm

and to note earlier childrens second names McCausland ? and Redmond may help with your search
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gt4/

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPBQ-N4J