William Dobson, South Shields, Master Mariner

[PaulThommo]

My G G Grandfather, William Dobson was living in South Shields, Co. Durham. On the wedding certificate of his daughter his occupation is listed as Master Mariner and although he is not listed on the 1851 census, his wife is listed as married - Master Mariners wife. On the 1861 census she is listed as Widow. There are 2 deaths listed for a William Dobson of South Shields in the 1850's, is there anywhere I can go to find out information about Master Mariners or is it best to order the 2 death certificates and hope for the best. I thought that the census included people on boats, or is there another section for people at sea?
What also doesn't help is that there is no mention of him in the 1841 census, but I have his wedding certificate showing he married a Jane Rippon in January 1842 in Tynemouth, Northumberland (the other side of the river Tyne to South Shields) and that his father (Jeremiah) and her father (William) were both listed as Mariners.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
Paul Thompson

[stanmapstone]

I thought that the census included people on boats, or is there another section for people at sea?

Seamen were included in the census if they were on ships anchored in British ports on the night of the census. However see http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=275133.msg1591449#msg1591449

Stan

[trish1120]

One of the Burials from Familysearch;
William DOBSON,
3 January 1855
St. Hilda'S, South Shields, Durham, England
Age 73, Birth c 1782
I think you can rule that one out

[garstonite]

a Master Mariner is "The Captain" of the ship
do not rule out he may have died at sea -
a member named Seaweed is the man you need .....send him a PM ....he will give you advice ..
good luck
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_mariner

[seaweed]

Do you have the date and place of birth of William Dobson?

[trish1120]

Hi seaweed.
From another posting of Pauls;

"I have a copy of a marriage certificate for my G G Grandparents who married in 1842. The infuriating part is that the ages of the newly weds is listed as 'of full age' (I presume 21 and over)"

1851 Census Jane Dobson, Williams Wife is born c 1821 South Shields, She is down as Married, Master Mariners Wife.
By 1861 she is Widowed and a Dressmaker.
The last Child of William/Jane is born c 1849

M/C has Father as Jeremiah, Mariner.

I found a Jeremiah born c 1799/1800 South Shields, Mariner, on Census.
Have added that info to the other posting in case it is Williams Father.

Trish

[Radcliff]

is that his masters and mates certificate on
A****
born 1816
apprenticed 1833
25th September 1850 still serving
Master on the Mary Jardine ?
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witnessed by Fred Bullock Falmouth, Seaweed is your man

[trish1120]

Excellent work Radcliff.


Info has his Birth as 31 May 1816 South Shields.

Looks like I may have been right;

Baptiism;
WILLIAM Dobson, 23 June 1816, St Hilda, South Shields, Durham
Parents JEREMIAH/ELEANOR

[trish1120]

JEREMIAH was born 20 Sept 1796
Apprenticed 1815
Finished service on the "Margaret" 1854 and part of 1855

1851 Jeremiah has drpped a few years of his age (new Wife is Younger)
Jeremiah Dobson, 51, Mariner
Rebecca Dobson, 41
John Dobson, 16
Jane Dobson, 11
Francis Dobson, 9
Eleanor Dobson, 7
Rebecca Dobson, 5

1841 Westoe, Durham;
Jeremiah Dobson, 45
Rebecca Dobson, 35
Jeremiah Dobson, 15
Isabella Dobson, 15
George Dobson, 13
John Dobson, 5
Jane Dobson, 1

Marriage to Rebecca is 1839 on FreeBMD

On Familysearch he is born c 1794;
Name  Jeremiah Dobson
Event Type    Military Service
Event Year Range 1853-1857
Event Place United Kingdom
Birthplace    Durham
Birth Year    1794


That would fit with a Baptism 3 November 1793, South Shields Durham
Parents WILLIAM/ISABEL