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MARGARET JANE BELL born Q2 1872 in DARLINGTON, CO DURHAM
« on: Tuesday 12 January 16 19:39 GMT (UK) »
More HELP required please.
Found my great grandmother (MARGARET JANE BELL) on an 1891 census for SUNDERLAND (Church Street) working as a servant in the WILLIAM HADEN household. Also living in the home was her future husband ROBERT WILLIAM GARROD (William Haden's brother in law). I am now looking to find her parents and in an effort to do so I have tried general searches for "DURHAM" "SUNDERLAND" and "DARLINGTON" on the 1881 census for both MARGARET JANE BELL and WILLIAM HADEN (just in case there is some sort of connection) without getting a successful match for either. There are, however 2 birth transcripts for Margaret Jane Bell with different birth years but based on the 1891 census I am reasonably confident the Q2 1872 is the correct one but will be happy to be proved wrong. Can anyone suggest where to look next.
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Re: MARGARET JANE BELL born Q2 1872 in DARLINGTON, CO DURHAM
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 January 16 19:48 GMT (UK) »
I would start with getting her marriage cerificate to Robert Garrod as that will give her father's name and occupation. Once you have that you will have more chance of making sure that you have right person in earlier censuses. Census ages can't be relied on, especially for servants, as the details would be filled in by their employer, who may just have taken a guess.
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Re: MARGARET JANE BELL born Q2 1872 in DARLINGTON, CO DURHAM
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 January 16 19:49 GMT (UK) »
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Ref. No for Margaret J Bell On 1891 census for anyone else looking
RG12; Piece: 4143; Folio: 128; Page: 12

Ref. No. for Margaret  Garrod b1872 Sunderland on 1901c with husband & children
RG13; Piece: 4719; Folio: 88; Page: 27
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSCZ-C8T

Her marriage cert. would give you her father's name

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Sep 1892 Sunderland 10a 801
GARROD   Robert William   
name on same page
BELL Margaret Jane   
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Re: MARGARET JANE BELL born Q2 1872 in DARLINGTON, CO DURHAM
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 January 16 19:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jim, unfortunately not a local so you can shoot this baptism down in flames!

Baptism Margaret Jane Bell b 14th February 1874 baptism 16th August 1874 Burnopfield Father George Middleton Mother Margaret Bell
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Re: MARGARET JANE BELL born Q2 1872 in DARLINGTON, CO DURHAM
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 January 16 20:33 GMT (UK) »
Probably just a coincidence..... or maybe a connection to Margaret's family  :-\

Did you notice on the 1881 census for
Robert W Garrod age 19 Son of Robert & Lydia
they have a visitor George A BELL aged 1 Sunderland

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKXR-NDH1
ref. No. RG11; Piece: 5000; Folio: 43; Page: 79
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Re: MARGARET JANE BELL born Q2 1872 in DARLINGTON, CO DURHAM
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 12 January 16 20:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jim - thanks for PM re read your post I see you are looking for a William HADEN on 1881c also

his surname appears to be NADEN

I have tried general searches for "DURHAM" "SUNDERLAND" and "DARLINGTON" on the 1881 census for both MARGARET JANE BELL and WILLIAM HADEN (just in case there is some sort of connection) without getting a successful match for either.


Is this him?

William NADEN son Age:   18 Sunderland
Father:   Thomas Naden
Mother:   Elizabeth Naden
Street address:   Coronation Street
Occupation:   Boiler Smith (Boiler Maker)
Piece:   5002
Folio:   107
Page Number:   48
Household Members:   

Thomas    46
Elizabeth    40
George    20
William    18
Mary Emma    16
Elizabeth A.    12
Paul J.    9
Hannah    7
John    5
Sarah J.    3
Rosina    1
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Re: MARGARET JANE BELL born Q2 1872 in DARLINGTON, CO DURHAM
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 January 16 20:57 GMT (UK) »
William NADEN may have married Jane GARROD (dau of Robert & Lydia)

Sep 1882 Sunderland   10a   673
Naden William   
other names on same page
Garrod Jane
Bell Elizabeth
Callum James   
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