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Re: Walter Spencer Stanhope
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 16 January 16 04:05 GMT (UK) »
Baptism - Cawthorne, All Saints - Yorkshire

Year - 1861
# 763
Christmas Day [25 December]

SPENCER-STANHOPE* - Walter
S/o Walter Thomas William and Elizabeth Julia
Father's occupation:  Gentleman
Address :  Cannon Hall

[* Note:   The Baptism record is written with the hyphenated surname of SPENCER-STANHOPE. ]


Sometimes on these baptism/christening records, the (actual) date of birth is added in the margin.
Not the case though with baby Walter.    Given that "17 November 1861" is recorded as his birthdate on the Purewa, Auckland, cemetery transcription ... and also on a military service record, it seems likely to be correct.

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Re: Walter Spencer Stanhope
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 16 January 16 05:16 GMT (UK) »
Yorkshire Gazette 23 November 1861

STANHOPE__On the 17th inst.,at Cannon Hall,Barnsley,
the wife of Mr Walter Spencer Stanhope,of a son.

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Re: Walter Spencer Stanhope
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 16 January 16 08:19 GMT (UK) »
Extracts : -Obituary for Sir Walter Spencer-Stanhope appeared in 'The Times' (London), Saturday, November 18, 1911, page 13, issue 39746.

......died yesterday in his 84th year at his seat, Cannon Hall, near Barnsley......
......Sir Walter married in 1856 to Elizabeth Julia.....
......he is survived by two sons and three daughters. The elder son, Mr. John Montague Spencer-Stanhope, was born in 1860.......

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Walter Spencer Stanhope
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 16 January 16 09:00 GMT (UK) »
Further to replies #8 & #12..........

From 'The London Gazette', Friday Sept, 23. Contained in-

'The Times (London) Saturday, September 24, 1892, page 10, issue 33752.

War office, September 23.

3rd Battalion, the King's Own (Yorkshire Light Infantry)- Capt. Walter Spencer- Stanhope, retired pay, late 14th Hussars, to be Captain.

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GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.


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Re: Walter Spencer Stanhope
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 16 January 16 12:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gillian

Unsure as to what information on Captain Walter Spencer STANHOPE, you already have ?? 
There is though a lot available using a google search ... so won't repeat it here, except for that which is possibly relevant to his travel to, (and time spent), in New Zealand.

Extracted information from Charterhouse Register (forgotten books) via google search.

STANHOPE - Walter Spencer
b. 17 November 1861
(Robinites, Saunderites)  Left C.Q. 1878
Joined 19th Hussars, 1882
Served in Egyptian Campaign, 1884
In Soudan Expedition  1884-1885
Captain 1890 - Joined 14th Hussars
Retired 1892
Joined 3rd K.O. Yorkshire L.I.;    Retired 1902

[Note:   May be a good idea to google above ??   Not sure my transcription of same is entirely accurate in making sense ? ]

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Re: Walter Spencer Stanhope
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 16 January 16 12:36 GMT (UK) »
In addition to Reply # 21 ... (an earlier version)

From "The London Gazette" - 20 September 1892

14th Hussars , Captain Walter SPENCER-STANHOPE, about to be appointed to the Militia, retires on retired pay under Article 82, Royal Warrant, 25 May 1892.      Dated 21 September 1892.

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Re: Walter Spencer Stanhope
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 16 January 16 13:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gillian

It does seem that Walter Spencer STANHOPE (then a Lieutenant), firstly made a journey to New Zealand in 1888 per the ship "Coptic", in the company of Dr. H. (Herbert Timbrell) BULSTRODE.
[See mention of this in Reply # 8 / Reply # 12.   ]

The newspaper article "Auckland Star"  (NZ) - 24 August 1888,  stated STANHOPE was "travelling" for his health" and this possibly related to the serious injury he had suffered in October 1887. 
The "Sheffield Evening Telegraph" (ENG) - 14 October 1887 reported Mr Walter STANHOPE, son of Colonel STANHOPE, C.B. of Cannon Hall, Barnsley, who was out shooting in Norfolk, was shot in the face and his son would permanently lose sight in one eye.   STANHOPE snr. had gone to Norfolk to be with his son.

Although I couldn't find (conclusive) details of their travel back to the UK from NZ, both Lieut. STANHOPE and Dr. BULSTRODE, both appeared in the 1891 UK census (with the Dr. marrying in October of that year.)

Of interest though, is another passenger who also made the 1888 "Coptic" voyage.     
See next >

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Re: Walter Spencer Stanhope
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 16 January 16 14:45 GMT (UK) »
"Coptic" - voyage to NZ, 1888

Also sharing the "first saloon" accommodation on this voyage, with Lt. STANHOPE and the Doctor, (though contracted to disembark at Auckland), was a "Mr. R.H. SHAKESPEAR".

And,  R.H. (Robert Henry Anson) SHAKESPEAR, was the co-owner with Captain W.S. STANHOPE, of the yacht, "Ilex".

[This following bit is my guesswork   ;) :   Travelling with R.H. SHAKESPEAR, was a "Mrs W. R. SHAKESPEAR", whom I believe was "Frances (a.k.a. Fanny) Isabella SHAKESPEAR, his long-time- widowed mother.   
R.H. SHAKESPEAR had already lived in New Zealand for at least 10 years, having married Blanche SMITH here in 1878, but it would seem he returned to UK briefly for the purpose of bringing his mother to NZ ??    R.H.S. was born in India 1856 - his father William Ross SHAKESPEAR served in the 3rd Regt.  - died in 1861-62 shortly after the birth of another son William Frederick who came to NZ many years later.]

A Google search will bring up much (NZ) information re: R.H. SHAKESPEAR.   A newspaper report of January 1897 ("Grey River Argus") records that "Mr R.H. SHAKESPEAR of Whangaparoa, was selected for the position of Caretaker, of Little Barrier Island."
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz

In one tale of R.H. SHAKESPEAR, it was said that he and his immediate family were the only inhabitants of Little Barrier Island ... though it would now appear that Capt. STANHOPE also resided there for a time.

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Re: Walter Spencer Stanhope
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 16 January 16 15:01 GMT (UK) »
Some conflicting reports in NZ newspapers about just how long Capt. STANHOPE had lived in the country ... 10 years ???  or  ... "a few years".   [Can't see him on electoral rolls at all ?]

I believe that he didn't return to New Zealand until 1901 ... and that he came here, via Australia.

This is very likely him on a voyage to Australia.

S.S. AUSTRALASIA - bound for Sydney, via Melbourne.   Departed London - 20 February 1901.
Arrival date:      27 March 1901 (Sydney/ Melbourne ??)

Saloon Passenger
Capt. Spence [sic] STANHOPE - aged 40 years  [bc 1861] - single

Embarked : either London or Plymouth

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