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Re: Booth/Gribben/D'Arcy/De Lacey adopted
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 16 January 16 19:15 GMT (UK) »
Interesting year difference between the birth registers on Ancestry and Irish Genealogy

The latter has a death of an Eliza Jane Booth aged 31 in Q3 1901
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/59f88713241162

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Re: Booth/Gribben/D'Arcy/De Lacey adopted
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 16 January 16 19:18 GMT (UK) »
this would be the registration of Edward from 1901

Edward Maurice Booth
Date of Registration:    Jan-Feb-Mar 1899
Registration district:    Belfast


presumably if adopted into an RC family they'd list him as such, despite his previous conenctions?

No such birth in GRONI's database so I checked Family Search's civil registration index and the year should be 1900 NOT 1899-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBVQ-Z2P
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Re: Booth/Gribben/D'Arcy/De Lacey adopted
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 16 January 16 19:20 GMT (UK) »
The latter has a death of an Eliza Jane Booth aged 31 in Q3 1901
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/59f88713241162

Eliza Booth died 31 Aug.1901 according to GRONI.
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Re: Booth/Gribben/D'Arcy/De Lacey adopted
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 16 January 16 19:22 GMT (UK) »
Belfast City Cemetery (F2 47)
Mrs. Eliza Jane Booth, age 31, Workhouse 36 Clementine St, died 31 Aug.1901, buried 2 Sept.1901

https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6405.18688

3 other Booths in plot
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialSearch.aspx?GraveSection=F2&GraveNumber=47&CemeteryName=City%20Cemetery

Added- bad news? Hugh Booth born 13 Mar.1901 (mother- Walker)

Which seems to be this family-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/St__George_s_Ward_Belfast/Fortuna_Street/955638
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Re: Booth/Gribben/D'Arcy/De Lacey adopted
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 16 January 16 19:57 GMT (UK) »
Ive been thru the Belfast City site trying to find burial records for Edward Booth (thats the name shown on the certified copy death certificate) dod 05/09/1981.
Can find nothing at all, even for just 'Booth' that fits any known family members (he had a son Patrick who died in the 1970's)

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Re: Booth/Gribben/D'Arcy/De Lacey adopted
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 16 January 16 20:53 GMT (UK) »
Was there an Albert Booth in the family in more recent times?
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Re: Booth/Gribben/D'Arcy/De Lacey adopted
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 16 January 16 21:06 GMT (UK) »
Was there an Albert Booth in the family in more recent times?
No, the only names on that side of the tree are Edward, John, Patrick, Mary, Susan, Helen, David, Stephen, and Anthony

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Re: Booth/Gribben/D'Arcy/De Lacey adopted
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 16 January 16 22:18 GMT (UK) »
Ive been thru the Belfast City site trying to find burial records for Edward Booth (thats the name shown on the certified copy death certificate) dod 05/09/1981.
Can find nothing at all, even for just 'Booth' that fits any known family members (he had a son Patrick who died in the 1970's)

The Belfast City Cemetery site only has records from City Cemetery, Dundonald Cemetery & Roselawn Cemetery. I suspect that Milltown is more likely but not all their records are online so it might be an idea to contact them especially if more recent family burials have taken place there. However, I don't think that will take you any further back than Edward himself.

Family stories often have a grain or two of truth even if they get a bit muddled over the years. Possible scenario-
c1871 Lizzie Booth born in England (either as Booth or D'Arcy...)
c1894 Lizzie Booth has daughter Lizzie born Lancashire
1901 Lizzie Booth and son Edward in census in Belfast with daughter Lizzie as a visitor at another address
1905 daughter Lizzie Booth died Belfast death certificate might give clues- address? informant?
1911 son Edward with Annie Gribben in Belfast has mother Lizzie Booth died, remarried or moved back to England

One reason I suspect that young Lizzie is Lizzie's daughter is that she is also born England (how many English-born Booths can be in Belfast at that time)

If Edward was born to Church of Ireland/England mother but later married a Catholic then there should probably be a baptism record for his conversion in order to marry in a Catholic Church. So, do you know exactly where the 1919 marriage took place?
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Re: Booth/Gribben/D'Arcy/De Lacey adopted
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 16 January 16 22:21 GMT (UK) »
I wonder...

Baptism: 5 Aug 1894 Ellenbrook Chapel, Worsley, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Alice Booth - [Child] of Elizabeth Booth, Single Woman
    Abode: Boothstown
    Baptised by: Jno. H. Powell
    Register: Baptisms 1844 - 1902, Page 262, Entry 2189
    Source: Manchester Central Library
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
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