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Re: Wysall
« Reply #9 on: Monday 18 January 16 14:24 GMT (UK) »
Do you know what happened to Edward after 1931, or did he die then?
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Re: Wysall
« Reply #10 on: Monday 18 January 16 14:37 GMT (UK) »
Jesse b Wysall is shown in the 1891 census as age 21,  lodging with this family:

John Stephenson  age 48 b Bradmore, Notts
Hannah do. age 50  b Clipstone
John      do.   age 28 b Clipstone
Jane      do.   age 20 b Stapleford
Jesse     do    age 16 b Hallam Fields Derbyshire
Henry    do.   age   3 b Hallam Fields

so 2 Jesse Stevensons of similar age under the same roof! They must surely be related?
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Re: Wysall
« Reply #11 on: Monday 18 January 16 15:20 GMT (UK) »
Jesse was born in or around 1870. I've followed him through the various census ending in 1911 where he is a widower living with his 8 children - Mary 18, Alwyn 16, Beryl 11, Alfred 9, Albert 7, Harold 5, Wilfred 2, Dennis 1 month.
In 1901 his wife Sarah Jane is still alive and the 3 oldest children are shown by Gwendoline (Mary) 7, Francis Edward (Alwyn) 6, Caroline (Beryl) 1.
1891 finds him boarding with John and Hannah Stevenson, He marries Sarah Jane Barber in 1892 in Basford, Derbyshire.
1881 He is living with his grandfather William Stevenson aged 60 who is a widower.
1871 He is living with his grandparents      "           "       and Ann and his aunt Mary aged 12.
They always seem to be living in the Ilkeston area of Derbyshire.

I do feel that these names are family names. There aren't too many Jesse's around at that time compared to William, George and John for instance.

That's all a bit back to front, sorry. Think it must be the way my mind works.  :P

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Re: Wysall
« Reply #12 on: Monday 18 January 16 16:42 GMT (UK) »
Moving forwards again to edward, do you have any addresses for the family in sheffield?
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Re: Wysall
« Reply #13 on: Monday 18 January 16 17:16 GMT (UK) »
Firstly I do not know what happened to Edward after 1931. He is on the electoral roll at the family address in 1930 but none of them are there by 1932. The 1931 ER no longer exists. My gran married someone else in 1934. So your guess is as good as mine. As I don't know where he came from or when he was born I cannot pin down a d.o.d. for him.
The family lived at 11, Beeley Street, Sheffield. The area is described as Sharrow and also Ecclesall Bierlow. They were there from 1913 until 1930/1. The children were born 1913, 1916, 1918 and 1921. Edward is mentioned in a newspaper in 1921 giving his name and address so we know he was definitely there. Despite their not being married my gran took his name and his children also had his name.
I do have a lot of info which I have gleaned over the years so if you have any questions then do please ask. I am really grateful for any help.
Stevenson, Toulson, Owen, Bolland, Laxton, Brocksopp, Butler, Banks, Beadling.

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Re: Wysall
« Reply #14 on: Monday 18 January 16 17:56 GMT (UK) »
This looks like Edward's baptsim ( Francis Edward Olwyn Stevenson) in Hallam Fields, Derbyshire - at least you know where he came from

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Brown,Brooks,Watson - Belper/Duffield Derbys
Hole - Ashover Derbys
Webb, Flavell, Mason - Staffs (mainly Sedgley)
Bevan,Beamond - Chirbury Shropshire
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Re: Wysall
« Reply #15 on: Monday 18 January 16 18:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Shirl,

 That actually looks like Francis' baptism. I see what you're thinking and I will investigate further into this idea but as he was born in 1896 I think he would be a bit young for my gran but stranger things have happened. Thanks for the suggestion.

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Re: Wysall
« Reply #16 on: Monday 18 January 16 18:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi Shirl,

 That actually looks like Francis' baptism. I see what you're thinking and I will investigate further into this idea but as he was born in 1896 I think he would be a bit young for my gran but stranger things have happened. Thanks for the suggestion.

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Worth a try! Have you got any of the birth certs of Edward's children ? Does it show an occupation?
North,Noble,Harrison,Seller - North Riding Yorks parishes
Brown,Brooks,Watson - Belper/Duffield Derbys
Hole - Ashover Derbys
Webb, Flavell, Mason - Staffs (mainly Sedgley)
Bevan,Beamond - Chirbury Shropshire
Longridge - Northumberland/Durham
Freeman - Hampshire, Oxfordshire,Sussex
Smith - Derbyshire and Yorkshire
Whitehead - Yorkshire
Morris - St Pancras Yorkshire etc

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Re: Wysall
« Reply #17 on: Monday 18 January 16 18:41 GMT (UK) »
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The area is described as Sharrow and also Ecclesall Bierlow

Sharrow is a suburb of Sheffield; it's almost innercity and would have been densely populated before the Luftwaffe did some slum demolition for the council. (Beeley St is pretty close to where George Orwell stayed and commented on the slum conditions in one of his books - Down and out in Paris and Londn? I'm not sure which).

Ecclesall Bierlow is the registration district which encompassed the west side of Sheffield and went out into what was then still Derbyshire and is now at the outermost edges of Sheffield's leafiest furthest flung suburbs.
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)