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Re: Eric Henry Clifford 1916-1993
« Reply #9 on: Monday 25 January 16 15:15 GMT (UK) »
Supposition at the moment
there is 1 Eric H  born June qtr 1916
Eric H Feltham mother nee Hobbs
Christchurch registration district
ref 2b 1271

Another 1 Eric H born Sept qtr, a long shot, bearing in mind his birth was April he might well have been registered after the allotted 42 days, wouldn't have been the first one to be registered late
Eric H Burnley nee Crooks
Portsmouth
ref 2b 750

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Re: Eric Henry Clifford 1916-1993
« Reply #10 on: Monday 25 January 16 15:43 GMT (UK) »

Another 1 Eric H born Sept qtr, a long shot, bearing in mind his birth was April he might well have been registered after the allotted 42 days, wouldn't have been the first one to be registered late
Eric H Burnley nee Crooks
Portsmouth
ref 2b 750


This may be Eric Horace Burnley born 28 Aug 1916, died 2008 Huddersfield.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Eric Henry Clifford 1916-1993
« Reply #11 on: Monday 25 January 16 15:44 GMT (UK) »
Supposition at the moment
there is 1 Eric H  born June qtr 1916
Eric H Feltham mother nee Hobbs
Christchurch registration district
ref 2b 1271


This may be Eric Harry Feltham born 13 Apr 1916, died 2003 Slough.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Eric Henry Clifford 1916-1993
« Reply #12 on: Monday 25 January 16 15:48 GMT (UK) »
I am assuming then that Eric H Clifford must have been born under a completely different name then ???

Were there any siblings?

He must have been at school  at sometime during his young age, London does have some school records, wonder if Hampshire does

Looking at the age of Eric when he was adopted and the age of Mary I would have thought she might have been a little old to adopt a child, she must have been born about 1870, she could have been an elderly relative

1939 registration ?

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Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
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Re: Eric Henry Clifford 1916-1993
« Reply #13 on: Monday 25 January 16 15:59 GMT (UK) »
Don't know whether this of any interest but at the time they were devout catholic.  Mary died 1934

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Re: Eric Henry Clifford 1916-1993
« Reply #14 on: Monday 25 January 16 16:06 GMT (UK) »
What more is known of Henry and Mary Clifford?

There's a couple by those names I can see living in Portsmouth in the censuses - Henry (b abt 1861 Chichester) was in the Navy until retirement; Mary was born abt 1868 Aldershot or Gibraltar, possible maiden name Toole** or O'Toole, may have married (Clifford/Toole) Mar qtr 1891 Farnham.  No children born to them I think.  Is this the right couple?

As LM said I would be looking for a family link with Eric in the first instance, as it would be rare for a 60-yr-old widow to be looking to adopt an unrelated child.

**There is a British Armed Forces birth for a Mary Toole in Aldershot, 1868.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Eric Henry Clifford 1916-1993
« Reply #15 on: Monday 25 January 16 16:12 GMT (UK) »
I am assuming then that Eric H Clifford must have been born under a completely different name then

Maybe he was originally Eric, the Henry being added after adoption  :-\

Another possibility
June qtr 1916 Eric Salisbury (mmn  Saul)  Portsmouth    2b   784
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Re: Eric Henry Clifford 1916-1993
« Reply #16 on: Monday 25 January 16 16:40 GMT (UK) »
AVM228 you are spot on with Mary and Henry

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Re: Eric Henry Clifford 1916-1993
« Reply #17 on: Monday 25 January 16 16:46 GMT (UK) »
If this couple were devout Catholics he may have been adopted through a  Catholic society, I don't now how you would go about it to search for his records
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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London