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Peter Swindells, Macclesfield
« on: Monday 25 January 16 23:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I'm trying to find the parents of Peter Swindells, born 1811-14 in Macclesfield. My Peter married Sarah Fernilee/Fernley on 3rd April 1831 in Macc and is a weaver. There seems to be two candidates for a Peter born in Macc but I've discounted them:

1) son of Mottershead Swindells (b: 06 Mar 1814) but I think this Peter died 1836. Can anyone verify this is correct ie the Peter that died is the son of Mottershead?

2) Peter b:15th March 1811 to Samuel & Mary Swindells in Romiley. Samuel was a button mould turner and thus the wrong occupation for Peter. Also, all census entries for my Peter say he was born in Macc. Other data has also made me exclude this Peter.

So I'm stuck. I can't find any other Peter Swindells born around then in Macc. I only have the marriage registration for Peter/Sarah which doesn't list the father.

Any ideas?

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Re: Peter Swindells, Macclesfield
« Reply #1 on: Monday 25 January 16 23:28 GMT (UK) »
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son of Mottershead Swindells (b: 06 Mar 1814) but I think this Peter died 1836. Can anyone verify this is correct ie the Peter that died is the son of Mottershead?


Unfortunately the only information given on the image of the Parish Record is his name, age 22 and date of burial 22 Mar 1836 at St. Michael, Macclesfield.
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Re: Peter Swindells, Macclesfield
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 26 January 16 09:35 GMT (UK) »
There is another Peter Swindells he was baptised 17 May 1807 so a bit earlier than the dates your looking at but even so it might be worth checking
Parents John and Ann residence Macclesfield.
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Re: Peter Swindells, Macclesfield
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 26 January 16 09:45 GMT (UK) »
The will for Mottershead Swindells is on findmypast Cheshire wills - well, he died intestate so there is no will nicely naming wife and children etc, but there are letters of administration.
It is not quite straight forward.
He seems to have died 6th Sept 1824, administration going to his wife Sarah. Goods under 3000 pounds. (Quite wealthy).
He was a 'silk manufacturer', so you wouldn't expect his son to give his occupation as lowly weaver I'd have thought. Just  my opinion.
There is also a record for 1841 where Sarah has died and the administration goes to her daughter Elizabeth Walmsley, wife of Samuel Broster Walmsley. Goods now under 20 pounds. (not so wealthy!).

No mention of a son anywhere, but that's not to say there wasn't one.

I had a look for an application for a marriage licence for Peter and Sarah, again on FindMyPast and again often really useful, but unfortunately no luck.

Do you know the children of Peter and Sarah?
Do they give any clues as to what his father may have been called?

Ah ha. I see the Peter ch 1814 is of Motterhead and Jemima. There seem to be two Motterhead Swindells in MAcclesfield having children in the same period. How odd. There are licences for both of them, and at a swift glance, their signatures are very different, so it look as if they're definitely two different people. And one can't be the son of the other I don't think. And no Peter with mother Sarah, so that rules out Mottershead above.

Sorry, no nearer knowing after all that!
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Re: Peter Swindells, Macclesfield
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 26 January 16 11:06 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Goldie61,

Peter Swindells' grave in Macclesfield Cemetery has the inscription "Also PETER SWINDELLS who died June 14th 1886 aged 74 years" so his age is pretty well given (if he remembered when he was born!).

There is a marriage registration for Peter Swindells and Sarah Fernilee on FindMyPast but this don't give any details of the fathers. Sometimes the witnesses can help but here they are William Fernley (Sarah's brother) and an A. Cragg - who!? Perhaps someone on his mother's side?

I'll follow up on there being possibly two Mottershead Swindells; that may give me my break. Just checked the will of Mottershead who died 1817 and he is described as a twister and his will mentions a son Peter - who may be the one who died in 1836 and I've gone full circle again!

Regards,