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Annie fraser 1865 - 1943 ABERDEENSHIRE
« on: Tuesday 26 January 16 13:07 GMT (UK) »
Annie Fraser 1865 - 1943 Can any one in Aberdeen find a marriage to a James Chisholm 1863 - 1917 born Edinburgh I can find a marriage in Liverpool but wont to double check their is not a marriage in Scotland before moving to Liverpool both died in Liverpool.

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Re: Annie fraser 1865 - 1943 ABERDEENSHIRE
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 26 January 16 13:10 GMT (UK) »
Have you checked Scotlands People?

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Re: Annie fraser 1865 - 1943 ABERDEENSHIRE
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 26 January 16 13:17 GMT (UK) »
www.lancashirebmd.org.uk shows the marriage was in 1887 at Our Lady & St. Nicholas & St. Anne   

If you live in Liverpool - you can look the marriage up at the records office

Both James & Ann were b Scotland and their first 4 children shown on the 1901 census were also b Scotland.

I can't see another James & Ann/Annie Chisholm in Liverpool in 1891

The 1887 marriage cert will only tell you their respective fathers names - not mothers
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Re: Annie fraser 1865 - 1943 ABERDEENSHIRE
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 26 January 16 14:27 GMT (UK) »
Carol their is somebody who has done a family tree with them geting married in scotland and as you can see by the childrens names its the same family but he will not get back in touch with me to discuss this. I have the 4 birth certificates all born in LIVERPOOL.
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Re: Annie fraser 1865 - 1943 ABERDEENSHIRE
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 26 January 16 14:41 GMT (UK) »
Nobody has notified an amendment to the 1901 entry and the actual image shows all birthplaces as Scotland.

If those 4 children were all b Liverpool - it makes the 1887 marriage far more likely.

If you know the names of either James or Annie's fathers then your best way is to either buy a copy of the cert or look it up at the records office for free

The 1911 entry supports an 1887 marriage
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Re: Annie fraser 1865 - 1943 ABERDEENSHIRE
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 26 January 16 15:49 GMT (UK) »
The marriage cert gives fathers as DANIEL CHISHOLM and ANDREW FRASER do these tie up in Scotland?

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Re: Annie fraser 1865 - 1943 ABERDEENSHIRE
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 26 January 16 18:01 GMT (UK) »
As both were born after 1855 - their birth certs will be available to download from Scotlands People which is a pay per view site via credit purchase

There is no Scottish 1871 entry for a James Chisholm with a father Daniel.  What was Daniel's occupation on the marriage cert?

See this English 1871 available on FS - birthyear 1861

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBJ7-JP5

What was Andrew's occupation on the marriage cert?
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Re: Annie fraser 1865 - 1943 ABERDEENSHIRE
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 26 January 16 18:13 GMT (UK) »
Here's the link to the 1881 census - possibility for Annie living in Cheshire

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/2562194?collectionNameFilter=false

Here's the 1871 link to search for her in England

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1538354?collectionNameFilter=false
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Re: Annie fraser 1865 - 1943 ABERDEENSHIRE
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 26 January 16 18:21 GMT (UK) »
The 1871 for Scotland has this entry for Glasgow - all b Aberdeen and all shown as boarders

Andrew Fraser    28 engine fitter
Ann  24
Ann  6
Helen  1
Barbara Hudson    22
Glasgow Maxwell ED 79 Page 22 Line 5
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