Can any one help re death certificate.

[groom]

As I said in an earlier post, the only death in 1913 in England and Wales is the one in Warrington, but he is 60. So unless his age was more than people thought it isn't him.

[rea1]

Yes  I checked that out too groom,  but his marriage certificate says age 35.  So unless he fibbed on that about his age-but then again grandma knocked 9 years off her age when married my granddad ha ha.


Liz

[alpinecottage]

Can you find another David Cahil in or near Warrington on 1911 census, who is about 58 years old?

Are you using the GRO index to establish the age of the David Cahil who died?   There may be a transcription error there or on the wedding certificate you have.

Have you been in touch with Warrington Council Cemetery Dept?  When I contacted them a couple of years ago, they were very helpful and looked up some entries in their burial register for me - I'd provided names and probable burial dates and they let me know who else was buried in the grave, who'd bought the plot and for how much, and addresses of the "occupants"

[rea1]

I'm not 100% sure he died in Warrington alpinecottage, as from what I can gather from their 1st son Robert's birth in 1904 they were living in Bilsborrow where grandma came from originally.  After the registration of Robert,  there is know sign of David.  I'll check in to what you suggest though, thank you for your input.

Liz

[Christine53]

From the Gloucester Citizen 2 Dec 1912   :

Tewkesbury Petty Sessions

David Cahill , a travelling tailor , pleaded guilty to being drunk in the Bredon Road on Sunday.....
fined 1s and 4s costs.

I wonder if this is your David Cahill ?

[rea1]

Oooooh i'll go check this out, thanks CB53.  It could be, from what I can put together so far he travelled around-probably why he's so hard to pin down  .



Liz

[Annie65115]

I've checked Warrington council's online burial records site and he's not listed on there (but then again neither are many of my relatives who I know for certain died in Warrington, so it's clearly not comprehensive).

[rea1]

Thanks Annie,  I had a look at the newspaper that CB53 suggested,  and there could be a chance that this chap could be David.  Maybe if he did travel around the country he could have died anywhere, or as someone suggested to me, as a John Doe if he had no identity on him.


Liz

[Rosinish]

I'v sent for David and grandmas marriage certificate Annie.  The witnesses were Thomas Bamber and Agnes McKeran.  Myself and my cousins daughter are interested what happened to David,  if he died in 1913 and if so how.
Liz

Hi Liz,

Sometimes we need further investigation to establish things to help research i.e. a witness may have had same surname & be a possible sibling which can then be researched.

The marriage cert. will state his father & occupation, from which you can look for him in 1901 prior to marriage & if his father is named with occupation on death cert. this is more or less confirmation of the correct death (hopefully the info. was known to the informant) & the death found by groom is correct as people did alter their ages where there was an "age gap"?

You may also find that there is the possibility he'd been married previously, given his age when he married your grandma if his age is out that much.

He may also not have declared to have been wed before though even if he had   

The joys of genealogy 

Annie