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Re: The Times wants your views: DNA ethnicity results
« Reply #207 on: Thursday 04 February 16 12:44 GMT (UK) »
I'm having trouble keeping up with this thread, between the time difference, and my working hours.
Somewhere earlier on this thread, I mentioned a study done comparing results from different companies. Here is the link. Very interesting reading.
http://www.jaunay.com/newsletter/newsletter119.html

That was a very interesting article Pinefamily.  A few clicks led me to this place offering Free DNA tests but only for specific criteria and names.  Ireland is very popular.  :)

http://isogg.org/wiki/Free_DNA_tests

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Re: The Times wants your views: DNA ethnicity results
« Reply #208 on: Thursday 04 February 16 12:52 GMT (UK) »
I'm having trouble keeping up with this thread, between the time difference, and my working hours.
Somewhere earlier on this thread, I mentioned a study done comparing results from different companies. Here is the link. Very interesting reading.
http://www.jaunay.com/newsletter/newsletter119.html

Care should be taken in reading the statistics in the tables in that link as a lot has been left out giving a misleading impression of the relative size and importance of each firm
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: The Times wants your views: DNA ethnicity results
« Reply #209 on: Thursday 04 February 16 12:57 GMT (UK) »
On the other hand, davidft, there's the table giving how many samples for each of the companies, so I am not sure that there's any misleading impressions being made by Mr Jaunay.  He has a fine reputation within Australian family history circles. 

http://www.unlockthepast.com.au/our-team/graham-jaunay

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Re: The Times wants your views: DNA ethnicity results
« Reply #210 on: Thursday 04 February 16 13:05 GMT (UK) »
What good does it do to get a report informing me I'm 80% Anglo Saxon 10% Viking and 10% Celt. That was the type of report a friend received after spending $500 or $600.

I don't know if it's the same elsewhere, but prices in the US have gone down since I first looked into DNA testing.  Ancestry's test is $99 here with frequent sale prices of $79.  That gives ethnicity estimates, as well as people who match you.

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Re: The Times wants your views: DNA ethnicity results
« Reply #211 on: Thursday 04 February 16 13:50 GMT (UK) »
What good does it do to get a report informing me I'm 80% Anglo Saxon 10% Viking and 10% Celt. That was the type of report a friend received after spending $500 or $600.

I don't know if it's the same elsewhere, but prices in the US have gone down since I first looked into DNA testing.  Ancestry's test is $99 here with frequent sale prices of $79.  That gives ethnicity estimates, as well as people who match you.

It's £99 here.
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Re: The Times wants your views: DNA ethnicity results
« Reply #212 on: Thursday 04 February 16 13:57 GMT (UK) »
I haven't done any autosomal testing. I haven't tested with Ancestry. All my testing has been with FTDNA and Yseq.net and it's all been Y-DNA. I am not particularly interested in ethnicity. All my testing has been to break down brick walls in particular lines.
In my mother's line from Lancashire, a 7th cousin started a Y-DNA project to get us past Abraham Broadley, who arrived in Darwen, Lancashire in 1654. This has been spectacularly successful and has proved that the Lancashire Broadleys are descended from the Yorkshire Broadleys (Irish/Scottish Broadleys are different). Currently trying to make a tree between 1362 and 1654. This line is R-M269.
In my father's line we were stuck with Herman van de Waal born in the 1740s, Gelderland, Netherlands, who may have been illegitimate and adopted by a stepfather. This line is I-M253, no matches, but running through SNPs to  get closer to genealogical time. He is currently CTS6772+
In my husband's line I was stuck with a Thomas Ball who married in Derbyshire in 1754. This line is I-M223 and there were lots of matches but none with the same name. However, a match at a distance of 2 with a one name study from Staffordshire has proved fruitful and I have been running through SNPs again, so far matching. The next one is not yet available on FTDNA, but I now believe Thomas Ball was born in Staffordshire. The one name study has 2 main groups, R-M269 and I-M253, the exceptions being 2 families of I-M223, who are related to my husband. Since, in the same small village in the 1650s there are 2 families with the same name, but one being I-M223 and the other I-M253 it seems possible that the I-M223s should really be Ball or that the relationship is before names were created. The last matched SNP is Y6060, 2,700 years before present. cb
Broadley (Lancs all dates and Halifax bef 1654)

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Re: The Times wants your views: DNA ethnicity results
« Reply #213 on: Thursday 04 February 16 14:51 GMT (UK) »
I just wonder, have attitudes at the scientific level changed in the intervening years since the following was printed.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01h02/

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Re: The Times wants your views: DNA ethnicity results
« Reply #214 on: Thursday 04 February 16 15:16 GMT (UK) »
Great to see so many replies but 24 pages are too much for me to read today  :D

I have had my DNA taken and also got one of my Brothers to do the male line for me.
I also got one of my Sons to take it so that I had an idea of what it was all about.
I am a pensioner and didn't feel it was too expensive   I only did the 12 ancestors
but it would be nice to go further back.
I had done my family history before the DNA tests were done.  So I do know that most
of my family on nearly every name are from Yorkshire.  In fact I think we must own Yorkshire ;D
My foreigner as I call him is my Great Granddad on my maternal side and he comes from
Cumbria and a few hundred years back from Scotland and that family were border Reivers.
I decided to do the DNA test having seen people mention it here on Rootschat.

I unable to give all the tech names but the gist of it all was very interesting.
I am from a family on my Mothers side who were probably Vikings and they travelled
there from Africa, up through Saudi Arabia, through Turkey and then exciting for me
through Macedonia.  I have always imagined in my mind I was from the men of Alexander.
We then continued on and seem to have gone through Germany up to Norway/Sweden
and then landed in Ireland and over to England. That's a journey and a half.   
That gave me another like in that my halpogroup or whatever its called lol, is H
which makes me from the 4th daughter of Eve called Helen. 
My Dads line come from Africa and then through Saudi Arabia and then along to Morocco
and up through Spain or France to England.  Which is probably why he had a fantastic
tanning skin.  He could look nearly black in a day out fishing lol.
So I was happy to see the few DNA matches I have and get more new matches from
my sons DNA, then my Brothers some living in the USA  and only 5 for mine in England
and one in Ireland.
My research on paper goes back to 1550, 1650, 1473, 1491 in 4 of my  main names.

When I win the lottery I will go back further than 12 to get closer links to my families
DNA.

p.s.  On my maternal line I have two numbers with only 20 points difference. The other numbers
and letters are the same.  Does this mean these two Grandmas were related??     
Midgley, Fowler, Chadwick, Kilvington, Routledge, Hewitt, Stevenson, Ward, Waite, Binks , Buck, Pearson,  Stanley, Firth, Child, Hobson, Rogers, all Leeds and Yorkshire for centuaries except the Routledges from Wigton, Cumbria and Middlesbrough. Related to McAllisters of Wilsontown

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Re: The Times wants your views: DNA ethnicity results
« Reply #215 on: Thursday 04 February 16 18:01 GMT (UK) »
On the other hand, davidft, there's the table giving how many samples for each of the companies, so I am not sure that there's any misleading impressions being made by Mr Jaunay.  He has a fine reputation within Australian family history circles. 

http://www.unlockthepast.com.au/our-team/graham-jaunay

Cheers,  JM

It was indeed the table giving how many samples for each of the companies i was referring to as  he labels his table as the 5 major companies but then only includes partial information for some eg for ftDNA he only includes autosomal DNA but for say 23and me he uses statistics for yDNA, mtDNA and autosomal DNA. Hardly consistent for the basis for comparison.

Mr Jaunay may well have a fine reputation in Australian family history circles and I certainly wasn't trying to besmirch his name. However, his table is misleading and it was that which I was pointing out
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.