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Francis H Warren
« on: Tuesday 02 February 16 20:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,
Tricky one maybe but looking for some help.
My G Grandfather was one Francis H Warren, who disappeared and never came back shortly after my Grandfather was born in 1918. As far as my mum knows, her dad (my Grandfather) never saw him again. However, he did tell her once that he suspected he had a half brother living in Wales, near Aberystwyth.
Anyway, I was doing a random search for his name the other day and uncovered this fantastic photograph of him (see attached). Underneath this photo was the caption "Francis H. Warren (London artist) taken in 1921 with Miss Mona Vivian at the London Hippodrome
photo provided by Francis' grandson Alan."

Understandably this came as something of a surprise, as my mum had no idea other than a fleeting mention of this as a possibility from my Grandfather.

What I would like to know is if it's possible to trace this side of his family any more? I have done some cursory research and found he was living in Stratford on Avon in 1939 with a Florence I Warren and with a child/dependent (who can't be named) and also that he died in Stratford. Does anyone know how best to find the mothers maiden name and then perhaps a birth record for the 1939 child/dependent?

Any help much appreciated or any other information at all.
Fauves



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Re: Francis H Warren
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 02 February 16 20:32 GMT (UK) »
Probate records for a Francis Howlett Warren of 60 Evesham Rd, Stratford died 11th September 1960, widow was Dorothy Ada Warren.

Francis H Warren
Birth: abt 1886
Death:Sep 1960
Stratford-upon-Avon Warwickshire
Volume:9c
Page:838

Is this the right Francis?

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Re: Francis H Warren
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 02 February 16 20:37 GMT (UK) »
I was wondering that sgh28, as Francis Howlett Warren married Dorothy A Archer in 1911, which doesn't fit with what was said in the first post.

Francis H Warren
Registration Year   1911   Quarter   Apr-May-Jun
Holborn   London
Volume   1b  Page   1294
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Re: Francis H Warren
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 02 February 16 20:43 GMT (UK) »
Looking at available records this Francis was also a commercial artist.


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Re: Francis H Warren
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 02 February 16 21:38 GMT (UK) »
UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services, 1853-1928 for Francis Howlett Warren Royal Naval Air Service Engagement 2nd October 1916. Occupation Draughtsman Artist. Place. of Birth St. Pancras London. Period of Service 12 Oct 1916 - 31 March 1918.

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Re: Francis H Warren
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 02 February 16 22:58 GMT (UK) »
So perhaps what we are asking is how sure are you that the photo you've found of Francis H Warren is your Francis?
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Re: Francis H Warren
« Reply #6 on: Monday 18 September 17 13:07 BST (UK) »
I was wondering if anyone had got any further with this.  I am writing a brief essay on Francis H. Warren and his work as an artist, and I'm obviously puzzled by the existence of his wife Florence in 1939. There is no record of a marriage between Francis and Florence, and when Francis died in 1960 probate was granted to his widow Dorothy Ada. They also had a son named (rather oddly, I thought!) Fritz Olaf, born in 1914 and who was killed in action in Burma in 1944 whilst serving with the Royal Artillery. Presumably Alan Warren, Francis's grandson Alan was Fritz's son - however, I can find no relevant birth records for an Alan Warren. Any ideas?

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Re: Francis H Warren
« Reply #7 on: Monday 18 September 17 13:56 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat.

Unfortunately, fauves didn't come back to answer anything on this thread and hasn't logged into Rootschat for about 18 months. We don't know whether the photo is any connection to their Francis H Warren or not.
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Re: Francis H Warren
« Reply #8 on: Monday 18 September 17 14:17 BST (UK) »
Ah, well, it was worth a try.  Thanks.