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Deggan family history
« on: Wednesday 03 February 16 19:44 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for the parents of Edward Deggan born 1829, Clifton, Bristol, and also the parents of Matilda Deggan, nee Ayres, his wife, born 1835, Frome, Somerset.

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Re: Deggan family history
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 20:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Assume in 1841 Census your Edward Deggan is show as a servant aged 12, 1851 Census  he is
in London - Police Constable.

If so this could be the bpt Bristol, Gloucestershire:-

Edward Dagan Born  19th September 1828  Bpt 12th October 1828 son of John & Eliza Dagan.

The above is from www.familysearch.org, however it is only a transcript so you would need to
look at the original parish register.

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Spendlove, Strutt in London & Middlesex.

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Re: Deggan family history
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 21:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi, thanks for information on Edward Dagan. However, in spite of police connection (Deggan was superintendent of police in Axbridge District in the fifties) this has to be the wrong man. Edward Deggan lived in Frome, Somerset, where he died in 1899. He was also, I believe, educated at Oxford, in those days a privilege for the comfortably off, so not likely to have been a servant at the time of the  '51 census.
I must keep looking!
Paul

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Re: Deggan family history
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 22:34 GMT (UK) »
where did you find the information that Edward had attended Oxford???

1851 he was just a plain police constable in London

He married 1856
Marriage 2 Sept 1856 St Leonards St Mary Bromley
Edward Deggan full age Bachelor occ Government Officer address Bromley father John Deggan occ Gentleman
Penelope Mary Abraham full age Spinster address Bromley father William Abraham deceased
witnesses Charles mears & Ann Nichol?
all signed

Edward and Penelope had moved to Frome by 1861
Penelope died 1862 death reg Sept qtr 1862 Frome

Edward then married Matilda Ayres in 1863

If you could purchase the 2nd marriage cert it would tell if Edward was a widower when he married Matilda and who hs father was

It very much looks like the strongest possibility is John & Eliza

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Re: Deggan family history
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 22:35 GMT (UK) »
He was also, I believe, educated at Oxford, in those days a privilege for the comfortably off, so not likely to have been a servant at the time of the  '51 census.
I must keep looking!
Paul

Edward was a police constable in 1851??
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Deggan family history
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 22:56 GMT (UK) »
From the Frome Times 6 Aug 1862 :

Deaths :

July 30th ,Penelope Mary beloved wife of Mr Edward Duggan , superintendant of police  Frome Division , aged 30
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Re: Deggan family history
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 22:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Have just searched All Oxford University Alumni, 1500-1886, on Ancestry.

There is no Deggan recorded using any spelling.

Think you should check police records to discover his progress from constable to Super.

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Re: Deggan family history
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 23:03 GMT (UK) »
1861
Christchurch St Frome
Edward Deggan Head M 32 superintendant of police Bristol Glos
Penelope M wife 30 Bristol
Honora E (misentered for Florence) daughter 3 Axbridge somerset
Sarah Hyatt servant 18 Wilts
RG9 1654 78 23

birth reg Florence Emily Deggan Sept qtr 1857 Axbridge

1871
Christchurch St Frome
Edward Deggan head M 43 clifton
Matilda wife 38 Frome
Percy E son 6 Frome
Florence E daughter 13 Axbridge
Matilda M daughter 1 Frome (listed as Hilda in 1881)

so the eldest daughter was mother Penelope

1881 census Edward & Matilda have Mary (sister in law )with them
This is matilda's sister
1861 Mary Ayres is a school teacher and her sister Matilda is living with her as School mistress' assistant

Matilda's baptism is on familysearch and she is in earlier census

Suz
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Re: Deggan family history
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 23:08 GMT (UK) »
Somerset County Constabulary was established in September 1856 and a notice in the newspapers in December 1857 marks the appointment of several Superintendents , including Edward Deggan.
It appears to have been a rapid promotion.
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